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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with circulation wear. Those are the high points of the design, so receive the most wear, hits etc.
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I see two worn coins and nothing to do with a die clash.
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@bjs, I'm not 100% sure how to gauge the AI response that you got, but I am not very hopeful. Due to the minting process, die clashes are almost always with both obv and rev dies centered and always always always with both sides at the same magnification.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm not seeing any signs of a clash either.
It just looks like circulation flattening to the high points of the design to me as well.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Forum Dad
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Now when I asked Chat GPT, It says its a die clash and found it interesting that the drummer boy had the same markings. Don't ever use any kind of AI with coin collecting. Ever. |
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I also agree with the above.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree with the above comments.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Since I collect bicentennials, I would like to point something out. I have specimens that show these same blunted facial features on mint state coins still in the cello. I believe it is a result of Die Deterioration. I have also seen it on bicentennial quarters with heavy scraping and polishing to remove die clashes, so I also wouldn't rule out careless polishing. It might even be the result of a worn hub, since the Mint appeared to run all their tooling hard to produce the bicentennial coins on schedule. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Also to remember with die clashes (copied):
the damage on the dies will primarily manifest in the flat sections, also known as the "fields," and the areas of lowest relief on the die face. This is because the fields and shallow recessed areas of the die are the highest points and thus most susceptible to striking the opposing die during a clash.
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Pillar of the Community
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I guess I should probably add to clarify: circulation wear is probably the culprit here. The nose is narrow, weak, and protrudes quite high off the surface. Lots of AU coins have smooshed noses. I think it's just not the only potential cause of a drummer with a smooshed face.
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Pillar of the Community
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Snailking, while that is true, there are many examples of die clashes appearing on high points. For example, on State Quarters, the weaker die clashes often manifest behind Washington's ear. It's the center of the design, so even though it's a relatively high point, that's where the dies make first contact. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Brandmeister; Oh!! Thank You for that info! Think maybe I'd better start taking prevagen for for all the info which everyone shares here!  Edited by snailking1
08/14/2025 11:33 am
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Very good points made by Spence, Brand, and Snail here.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bar fight!  |
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