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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4944 Posts |
Poll Question
I have always wondered how many collectors (not dealers) buy and sell, or flip coins to try and make a profit to have extra money to buy other coins for their collection.
If you do, where do you look for coins that you are buying? And what kind of profit margin are you looking for?
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Valued Member
United States
128 Posts |
I'd like to start, but I'm still learning so I'm gathering info and watching auctions & realized prices before I start putting cash down for coins I'm looking to liquidate rather than keep.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7840 Posts |
Sometimes it happens intentionally; I have bought coins on ebay that were erroneously listed for a quick turn for profit.  Sometimes it happens unintentionally; I bought a coin that I thought was just a victim of poor lighting/photography, and by the time I made up my mind to return it, the window closed on me (stupid tax kicked in).  But I don't make a point to let it happen too often...and it is sooo tempting at times. 
Edited by oih82w8 02/22/2012 11:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
619 Posts |
I will "flip" 40% halves or 80% Canadian coins from banks/eBay. I sell/trade them for more 90% or hole fillers that I need.
Edited by CPC24 02/23/2012 12:17 am
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Moderator
 United States
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I flip 90% of what I buy.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
4411 Posts |
I do a lot of roll searching for key dates etc and then sell them on ebay. Also buy proof sets to break them up and sell individually for profit. Most of what I make gets put aside until I have enough to buy something nice I like. Best bit is my girlfriend doesn't know how much I make and therefore how much I actually spend on coins 
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Moderator
 Australia
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No. I have never ever bought a coin thinking "I can sell that somewhere else and make a profit on it". If I buy a coin, it's because I intend to keep it.
Sometimes I have bought coins with the intent of upgrading a coin I already have, and selling the inferior one. Sometimes I'll buy a coin only to discover I already have one. Those are the only two ways I will buy and then sell a coin. On those rare occasions, I rarely pay attention to whether or not I'm making a "profit".
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Moderator
 United States
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I have done it once intentionally. I bought a silver dime at a pawn shop and sold it at a coin shop 30 minutes later and made 45 cents profit. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3592 Posts |
I did it unintentionally until it hit me how much profit could be made while growing my collection and having fun at the same time.Methods...well it wouldn't be wise to create competition against myself now would it ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 I have probably flipped my entire Collection of Canadian business strikes (1858-1967)> all six decimals at least twice in the past 15 years. This being as a result of upgrading and not intentionally trying to make a profit. If I do turn a profit, so be it, however, with the fees one pays in using E-bay/Paypal, I'm just lucky to break even most of the time. All my sales are done on E-bay and sometimes I contact sellers I know via e-mail and ask them if they would like to trade coins for a particular piece they have. Most of the time the coins I send them is accompanied with a cheque to make up the difference in what they are asking! Glenn 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2797 Posts |
I focus on unattributed Morgan dollars on ebay and to a lesser extent, local shows. I've sold around $12,000 worth of my "picks" in the last year and a half to purchase more coins. My investment for those picks was less than $500. But a cautionary note ... it's getting much harder these days. There are fewer "unattributed" Morgans on the 'Bay' and competition for those that show up is fierce. 
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Moderator
 United States
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Never tried. Probably never will. I get too attached to what I acquire. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1817 Posts |
No, probably never will start. It's ok to buy unattributed VAMs and errors and sell them for what they are, but it's morally and ethically troublesome to buy coins for the express purpose of flipping them for profit, unless one is a professional coin dealer. The A25 frenzy comes to mind, the haves lorded and congratulated themselves over the have nots all over the Internet, CCF included. You know, the number of coin buyers isn't that large, and isn't really appreciably growing because of the perceived rapaciousness and avarice in the "hobby," a case of cheating Peter to pay Paul. It's completely different if someone is registered with a tax-exempt ID to sell coins, that's a business, but that too, has a limit, which is so frequently exceeded by the big box profiteers like HSN, MCM, etc. It is not a surprise that numismatics is less popular than it was 30-40 years ago. Potential collectors get scared off by the initial cash outlay for even the most basic collection, aside from pocket change, not to mention the prevelance of fakes, and the ease with which a newbie can be fleeced in the marketplace.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
Never even thought about it but I really need to start focusing on unloading my doubles and triples.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1391 Posts |
"...it's morally and ethically troublesome to buy coins for the express purpose of flipping them for profit..."
What?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
570 Posts |
I sell off my duplicates and such to upgrade some coins. I have intentionally bought coins in order to trade them for another coin that I did want. When I buy bulk world coins I end up only needing a handful for my collection and the others I will sell off. I just don't want all my money tied up in generic world coins that are a dime a dozen.
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