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New Member
Canada
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I got my grandma's coin collection and this was in it, and I dont know if it's fake. The front is really messed up, but the back is in perfect condition(picture shows chips and stuff but actualy is on the plastic case and camera took crappy pictures). There's also a weird thing with it aswell, it is bent inward from the back(concave from back perspective) and it goes in about .15 thousands of an inch. Mabye mispunch?    Please comment, NightSilver |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2781 Posts |
its british (you are in the canadian forum) and very common. in UNC maybe $3-5.
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New Member
 Canada
33 Posts |
wait, so they all were bent inward from the back?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
I cannot think why anybody would want to fake these, they are very common.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2180 Posts |
It's a little hard to see from the picture, so how is the front messed up?
I doubt it's fake because, as sel and Wade say, it's a very common coin.
Is the front convex to match the back's concavity?
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New Member
Canada
33 Posts |
Well the front is so faded and looks like it lost its quality, and yes the front is convex. You cant tell from the photo though.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2180 Posts |
The real thing isn't particularly sharp:  As for the convexity/concavity, I don't know. I believe The Royal Mint has used slightly concave and convex dies before. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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How is the concavity measured--at the fields, or does the portrait rise above the rims, in other words the coin will not lay flat on one side? I could see that happening with Churchill's portrait.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1351 Posts |
It would be the first fake I had seen or ever heard of.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
4208 Posts |
Face value 25p - you'd be hard pressed to find someone who'd take it though!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1391 Posts |
If it was fake it would probably be worth more than the real ones are if you could sell it to a counterfeit collector.  |
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New Member
Canada
33 Posts |
DVCollector, It will lay flat on the back on the coin because from the back, it bows inward in a concave fashion around .15 thousands of an inch. On the front side, it bows outward in a convex fashion. It wont lay flat on the front side. I would post a side picture to show, but I can't get high enough quality photo to show any diff on the side on the coin. Though, I think it could be like Mr.T said, but I'm no expert.
Edited by NightSilver
02/27/2013 6:46 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2180 Posts |
The use of concave/convex dies that I know of was in the 1910s and 1920s.
It could just be that that is how the coin is, but I don't have a Churchill crown at hand to check.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They aren't well struck (I'm guessing by design), and I'll echo what others have said that I doubt anyone would fake a low value coin. It wouldn't be the first time a coin was bent (vice, bullets, pliars, hammers &c).
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
You can pick up one of these from VF to EF around £1 to £2 from most coin dealers, who don't treat them with a lot of care. They are just not worth faking. I have one and the striking is not particularly exceptional.
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