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1922- No D, LWC, Highly Desired Choice Bu++ Can't The Bidders See The D?

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Why not? There are people who buy slabbed "No FG" Kennedy halves b/c the slab says so, but clearly show an FG. These canb be seen on ebay without to much problem.

I mean - it the "experts" (TPG'ers or ebay store owner)say there is no FG / D, then there is no FG /D right?


1922--No-D,-LWC,-Highly-Desired-Choice-Bu++-Can't-The-Bidders-See-The-D?
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Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
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That is sad and funny at the same time.
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The bid is now up to 90.00. Very misleading title for the listing. You can still see the D in the pictures. Also, it's not BU. It has a ton of bag marks on it, which means it has been in circulation for a while. It's unbelievable how stupid some sellers can be, even when they know it's there. They just decide to be ignorant and sell it as a "No D" anyway.
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I ASQ'd the Seller about the visible mintmark vs the description. Let's see how, or if, they respond.

(BTW - I was nice and civil!)
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Westernsky, we'll see. Don't be too surprised if you don't get a response or get a very angry response.
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Also, it's not BU. It has a ton of bag marks on it, which means it has been in circulation for a while.
For what it is worth, you can have an MS or uncirculated coin loaded with bag marks. That being said, this example does have obvious circulation rubbing.
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this example does have obvious circulation rubbing.

Are you kidding; every time I look at that reverse it makes me want to vomit .
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Look at it like this, GSC sells a decent 22 weak D for $90.00 mislabeled and all. L and C labels it correctly in a PCGS slab and asks $900.00.
Which one is more of a stinker? Peeyou...what stinkers.
Surely this is a mistake, GSC wouldn't purposely list it like this. Bet they do fobs of listings and they erred. Wish they would err some for me.
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PEOPLE - Bag Marks DO NOT indicate circulation.

Unless there are sufficient bangs and scratches that might make it uncirculated DETAILS, those marks DO NOT change an uncirculated coin to a circulated grade or status.

They affect uncirculated technical grade and they reduce eye appeal, both of which reduce value. But not from 60-70 to a lower than 60 technical grade.
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Doesn't PCGS call the weak D cents No D weak reverse?
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PEOPLE - Bag Marks DO NOT indicate circulation.

Unless there are sufficient bangs and scratches that might make it uncirculated DETAILS, those marks DO NOT change an uncirculated coin to a circulated grade or status.

They affect uncirculated technical grade and they reduce eye appeal, both of which reduce value. But not from 60-70 to a lower than 60 technical grade.


Correct. Marks and scratches on a coin do not affect the technical grade.

I agree that this particular coin appears to be worn, however.
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and put it in my Dansco's 1922 plain hole


Those darn Dansco albums really put the screws to us low income collectors. Try finishing a large cent dansco with all them varieties!
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Actually the dies were so over polished, the devices are that weak. The coin maybe a normal weight. A lot of people saved these. The dies were so altered they look like that. When the coin has a strong fresh reverse, they grade the coin by the reverse, not the obverse.
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Especially so with Die Pair #2.
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"No FG" Kennedy halves b/c the slab says so, but clearly show an FG. These canb be seen on ebay without to much problem.


But we ain't talking about uninformed idiots - Oh wait - I guess we are - carry on!!
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