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 Posted 06/16/2019  7:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sam1966 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Has anyone seen this DDO before, I have searched the internet and haven't found one yet?










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 Posted 06/16/2019  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin does not look to be a proof IMOHO. Also, the doubling your seeing is DDD, or die deterioration doubling. This is common and not worth a premium. Keep hunting!

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 Posted 06/16/2019  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 06/16/2019  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sam1966 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is for sure not die deterioration, it is doubling, but I will give the results when it gets back from NGC. Thanks for your time and input.
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 Posted 06/16/2019  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too shiny to see what it is. Too much light that is not diffused. It may have been coated with something to give it a shiny finish.
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 Posted 06/16/2019  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the surfaces were altered, giving it its shiny appearance and doubling. A coin that worn should not have any luster. I don't think it is a proof or a doubled die/repunched date.

Also, in 1903, the date was added to the die separately from the rest of the lettering and design. Both the date and USA having the exact same doubling is highly suspect and should tip you off that it may not be a true error/variety.
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 Posted 06/16/2019  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to say congrats, however I must agree with Coops statement above.....good luck
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 Posted 06/17/2019  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sam1966 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a couple of better shots of date. Should be easier to see.


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 Posted 06/17/2019  12:25 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Tanman. I hope you didn't spend too much to have it graded.

Edit: you may have a foreign substance on your coin, maybe lacquer.
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 Posted 06/17/2019  05:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need "much better" photos. Does not look like a proof or a doubled die going by those photos. Please let us know what NGC says.
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 Posted 06/17/2019  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still can't evaluate properly from these pics. Doesn't look like a proof.



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The 1903 proof cents are not the shiny finish. They are more a matte finish.

With an excellent strike.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 06/17/2019  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Proof coins usually exhibit a strong, nice strike. The coin you have has a very mushy strike, and there is severe die deterioration. Still Looks to be a regular business strike to me. However, I could be wrong. I look forward to the results.

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