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Should I Buy Uncertified Or Certified 1921 P Mercury Dime?

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 Posted 03/28/2020  10:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coin_obsessed to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I am trying to complete a collection of circulated Mercury dimes. Because of corona-tine, I am looking to buy a 1921 P Mercury dime off of Ebay. I'm a highschooler, so I really don't want to drop more than $50, therefore I would probably buy one in AG-G condition. I'm seeing that in that kind of condition, uncertified ones are going for $15-25, while certified ones go for about $35-60. Is it too big of a risk to buy this kind of date raw? Or would it be stupid to buy one certified in such a low condition? Thanks for any and all help! :)
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 Posted 03/28/2020  11:15 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello fellow high schooler! These are very seldom faked in low grades. Typically from what I've seen the fake 1921 merc tend to me in choice VF-MS condition. If you want an AG-G it'd be best to buy raw IMO.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_obsessed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, thank you so much!
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 Posted 03/28/2020  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, raw is the way to go in this case . Just go over the sellers photos carefully and don't take a chance buying from bad or burry pics , the photo could be hiding something .
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 Posted 03/28/2020  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And make sure it's not cleaned
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 Posted 03/28/2020  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Check Collects82's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In this grade and price point, I'd buy uncertified from a reputable seller that accepts returns in case the coin isn't as it appears to be in the pics, such as a cleaning wasn't evident until you had it in hand. In this grade, the certification is an expensive way to ensure authenticity, talking with a reputable seller is probably free.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a old school raw guy, and I personally prefer my set in a book, something I can handle. Your chances of crossing a fake in low grade is less likely. Best of luck & happy hunting.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought one uncertified. It took quite a bit of patients finding one that matched the genuine I downloaded from PCGS as reference. That and a few books on counterfeits to learn about mint mark location and other characteristics common with fakes. Still, I'd recommend graded.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We can always give it a look over here before you pull the trigger.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The general rule is, "buy the best you can afford".
And another guideline is, "don't buy a coin that grades less than Good".

My suggestion to you is to save up until you can reach the Good level.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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.Hello fellow high schooler! These are very seldom faked in low grades. Typically from what I've seen the fake 1921 merc tend to me in choice VF-MS condition. If you want an AG-G it'd be best to buy raw IMO.


I think that's fair advice, btw I didn't know you were also a high schooler, guess theres more of us around this hobby then even I thought
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 Posted 03/28/2020  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Kanga, save up until you can buy one that is a solid good or better. Personally I would insist on full rims at minimum. In the long run (been collecting coins since 3rd grade and I am in my 60's) you will be much happier with the better grade as opposed to just filling a hole in a set. Also send a PM to 'Just Carl" and ask him for things to look out for in a 21 mercury. He has assembled several full sets in various grades and could probably give you some good pointers.
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 Posted 03/29/2020  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I go along with taking a chance on the raw one. Not many counterfeiters will waste time making a well worn anything unless it is worth a lot of money and 21 Merc is not that.
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 Posted 03/29/2020  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buying a $50 1921 raw dime on eBay that looks original is fine, but still look at the dimes in TPG holders as sometimes they are the best deal.
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 Posted 03/29/2020  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like others have said, you shouldn't worry about buying a counterfeit. However, I strongly recommend saving a bit longer and buying a nicer example.
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 Posted 03/30/2020  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erscolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is good to see you have a budget in place. Being more than forty years older, that principal is just as important to me. Enjoy the hobby and the collection of each coin in the set. It goes without saying look for the best you can afford within your budget. Graded in the circulated grades adds little benefit while adding additional costs. Check the reputation and return policies of the seller. I have purchased many raw and graded coins on eBay, with no issues. Mercury dimes are a beautiful coin and a beautiful set....enjoy them.
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