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I found this in a bucket of change I was going thru. The obverse has some copper color to it, and the reverse is mostly copper in color. Edge is almost all copper in color. Could this have been a wrong planchet used, or just age and circulation wore off some plating? It's an eye catcher though     Hope your all having a Safe and wonderful weekend! |
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Looks correct so far. Could be a missing clad layer. If real it will be an amazing find! What's the weight?
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Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
Edited by CoinHunter27
04/26/2020 4:47 pm
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Here's the weight  Here's another regular quarter to compare.  Weight looks pretty normal, doesn't it? |
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Need coop on this,looks like a good chance on missing clad layer. You should not hold it like that. If it is a missing clad layer you should use acetone on it. John1  |
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Don't touch it like that! Only hold it by the edges, and even that do as little as possible. It does look like it could be a missing clad layer, in which case it's an awesome find.
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Don't touch it like that! Only hold it by the edges, and even that do as little as possible  I believe its legit. doesn't look like any acids took the layer off. Still has a nice luster on the reverse. I think you got a nice find. Looking on ebay, many State Quarters graded missing the clad on the reverse. Nice find!! Edited by Kloccwork419
04/26/2020 7:00 pm
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According to my notes, a normal modern quarter should weigh 5.7 grams. If one clad layer was missing, it should weigh 4.6-4.75 grams. I think your quarter is within the normal tolerance on weight. I think its just environmental toning or has been painted/coated/electroplated maybe.  |
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Ok, used Acetone on it, now what, 2X2 Flip?   |
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Ok, I guess it's nothing. Thank you for your input Fuzzy317 I agree, the weight is the key. It's just a quarter, I'll save it for fun and put it in a 2X2. I'll chalk it up to it was almost a maybe something.  Edited by Snoopydoo
04/26/2020 7:22 pm
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Mike Diamond did a write up in Coin World saying the missing clad layer doesn't always imply missing weight. Maybe you can email him to take a look at it. |
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I couldn't find his email, but sent a message thru his website asking for his input, providing him a link to this thread.
Thank you everyone for you time and comments, I value them all!
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Throwing a monkey wrench in here. Looking at the rim it looks as if the copper core extends all the way to the surface. The scratches on the back might show the clad layer through the copper if the REV is plated. Hard to tell from the pics.
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A solid quarter planchet of just nickel would weigh 7.20 grams.
A solid quarter planchet of just copper would weigh 7.23 grams
That's only 3 hundredths of a gram difference.
Unless I am mistaken, it seems if the OP's coins is a planchet containing more copper than normal, and the copper extends all the way to the surface of the REV, the weight would still be pretty much spot on of a normal quarter.
Does "missing clad layer" necessarily mean there is a loss of metal so the coin weighs less? The above proposed scenario is what I always took for granted as being the explanation of such coins.
The copper-to-bottom-of-rim edge picture makes me ask these questions. If someone knows where I am in error, please let me know.
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With what Mr. Diamond wrote in the article, It doesn't always mean it weighs less. AND I agree with your assessment. I think its legit til its proven not to be after someone, hopefully Mike Diamond, has it in hand. With something like this, pictures cant always help
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The color is probably darker than the images show. But the weakness is there like a missing cladding. So I would save it. The red color should be dark as a copper cent. (Also listen about not touching the copper areas, as finger prints can be seen later on with copper coins) Which this is as it is half copper colored.  Edited by coop
04/26/2020 10:16 pm
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Just trying to get a better picture with better angle and lighting.  |
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The more I read, and look at this, I'm kinda with Fuzzy317. I can't skip over, why does the obverse show slight discoloring too? It's not solid like the reverse, but it's definitely discolored too. Maybe this picture is better showing what I originally posted about the obverse slight discoloring. I don't think the composition of the metals would have mixed would they?  |
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