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2002-D TN Quarter, Strange Coloring On Both Sides, Is Planchet Defective?

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 Posted 04/26/2020  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see from the last pic the font having some copper look to it also. If someone wanted to plate the REV they would need cover the OBV with something. Maybe this is the case and whatever they used to coat the front did not do its job well and allowed some copper to get through.

But it still would be awful hard to not have the entire rim look copper top to bottom if electroplated. That would take some very careful and deliberate micro-masking. And there does appear to be clad showing on the top in the pic posted of the edge.

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 Posted 04/26/2020  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snoopydoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just used a loop to examine the entire edge circumference and it does have a distinct clad layer all the way around.
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Not sure how I missed coop's post and pic before posting the last time I contributed.

His observations and opinion, for me, bolster my original opinion your coin is the real deal .
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I recall seeing an other Tenn. quarter being slabbed as a "missing clad" error. Maybe search the auction houses or TPGers for it...I feel it's the real deal...

@ Earle42..how about a layer of wax before coating, no micro masking needed... just thought I'd throw that out there
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 Posted 04/27/2020  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snoopydoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found this old post from the CCF of another TN quarter but it had a lesser weight.

http://goccf.com/t/260702
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Every heavyweight missing clad error I've encountered is missing at least a few hundredths of a gram and features a taper at one pole. This coin's weight is normal and shows no taper. I suspect this quarter was struck on an improperly annealed planchet. Sometimes only one face is affected.
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@greasy - true. I was just thinking of a paint-like masking substance being applied and not an accidental overlap (onto the rim) of wax/putty being put on the OBV.
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 Posted 04/27/2020  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snoopydoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like someone put in some work on this coin to put back into circulation and then it ended up in my change bucket.
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It's a keeper from what Mike D. says...research more on missing clad though..I remember seeing one for sale not too long ago...Maybe Heritage Auctions
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improperly annealed planchet


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In response to John1's head-scratching emoticon, an improperly annealed planchet is one that is exposed to excess heat in the annealing oven. This causes the copper and nickel fractions of the alloy to segregate out, concentrate, and migrate, with the copper usually migrating to the surface.
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 Posted 04/28/2020  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, thank you Mike Diamond.
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Updated the information on this image:
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I have to emphasize that my diagnosis is only tentative and would require close examination under a microscope. There are other potential causes for the copper-colored reverse involving post-strike alteration or discoloration.
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Well, we should know if it's real or fake in a couple weeks.

I've sent it to Mr Diamond for the truth test.

So, anyone taking odds?.......

Did I find someone's idea of a joke or did I stumble on to a treasure in my change bucket?

Stay tuned!
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