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Zurie's 2000th Post Contest -- Counterfeit Detection!

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 Posted 05/22/2020  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1.real
2.fake
3. fake
4. fake
5. real
6.real
7.real
8.fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGpenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Revised Answer:
1. real
2. fake
3. fake
4. fake
5. real
6. fake
7. real
8. fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As promised, here is the first clue. Coin number 4, the 1893-O Morgan dollar, is a die-struck counterfeit using a wrong reverse hub. On the reverse, there is a wide gap between the neck and the eagle's left wing, a design change not used in New Orleans until 1901.



So today, you only have to guess on the remaining 7 coins. Since there will be two winners, I won't announce the end of the contest until we get two perfect scores. Thanks for playing!
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 Posted 05/23/2020  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Fake
2. Fake
3. Real
4. Fake
5. Real
6. Real
7. Real
8. Fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1-fake
2-real
3-real
4-fake
5-real
6-real
7-real
8-fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1-Fake
2-Real
3-Real
4-Fake
5-Real
6-Real
7-Real
8-Fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is pretty fun! Here is my day #2 guess:

1. Fake
2. Fake
3. Real
4. Fake
5. Fake
6. Fake
7. Real
8. Fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guess #2:

1. Real

2. Fake

3. Real

4. Fake

5. Real

6. Fake

7. Real

8. Fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1.real
2.fake
3. fake
4. fake
5. real
6.fake
7.real
8.fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lawest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2 and 5 real, rest fake
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 Posted 05/23/2020  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations to JGpenny and Gincoin43, they both got them all correct on their second try, and JGpenny even did it before my hint! Some excellent attempts, Adam_E got 7 out of 8 right today. JGpenny gets first choice of the prizes, and Gincoin43 will get the other one. I'll be in contact with each to work out the details.

Thanks to everyone for playing! I'll list the answers with some diagnostics shortly.
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 Posted 05/23/2020  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the answers to the challenge:

1. 1876-S Trade dollar: Genuine, PCGS #03897344.

2. 1840 Large cent: Counterfeit. Crude date, large letters on reverse not used until 1843, and the rim defect on the reverse is from a known counterfeit die.


3. 1900-S Half Eagle: Known Middle Eastern counterfeit with loss of detail in the hair and stars, somewhat misshapen stars, and a mintmark that is too small. Reverse letters have rounded surfaces. This coin would have fooled me, which is why I would never buy a raw classic gold coin.
https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...-Half-Eagle/

4. 1893-O Morgan: Counterfeit, as noted previously.

5. 1911-P $2-1/2 Gold Indian: Genuine PCGS #34941837.

6. 1909-S-VDB: Counterfeit. The location of the mint mark looks good for position #3, but the VDB is incorrect. The dot after the D is too close to the D, and the V is too tall.


7. 1937-D Buffalo nickel 3-legged: Genuine, diagnostics include roughness at the back of the neck on the obverse, and on the reverse, die lumps running vertically between the legs, a mottled appearance of the back leg, and PLURIBUS and UNUM are separated from the back of the buffalo.




8. 1942/41 Mercury dime: Counterfeit, likely struck from a fake die made from a genuine piece. The underlying "1" in the date is too weak, and the words IGWT are also weak. In addition, the olive leaves on the reverse are too plump, without enough detail.

Hope this was challenging and a bit educational! Thanks again for playing!
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 Posted 05/23/2020  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aw man so close! That half eagle is a good one. Congrats to the winners!
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 Posted 05/23/2020  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hope this was challenging and a bit educational! Thanks again for playing!


Thank you! It was fun, the large cent also had the wrong number of berries.
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 Posted 05/23/2020  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow a good learning experience for me. The toning on that Trade dollar makes it look like it is copper. Thx @zurie!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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