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Nova Scotia 1813 Token Overstruck

 
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 Posted 10/27/2020  2:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Gebs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So today I picked up this one. It is Nova Scotia token NS-20A3 according to Charlton.

But if you look closley you can see it is an overstruck.

Most clear around the date 1813, you can aware London.

Anyone an idea what the original token/coin it was?

There is also an overstruck mentioned on coins and canada, that looks similar.





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 Posted 10/27/2020  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gebs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here some outlining of what I have found.





Charlton mentions that the halfpennies are struck on bristol halfpennies.
So some searching I came across this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1811-BRI....c100623.m-1
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 Posted 10/27/2020  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You nailed it. Most NS-20's, along with many other tokens of that time period, are struck over 1811 Bristol Tokens for Samuel Guppy's Sheathing Nail Manufactory
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 Posted 10/27/2020  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




those guppy's took a beating on more than one occasion - including the half penny issue which was host to the 1813 eagle token (among others)

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10/27/2020 7:24 pm
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 Posted 10/27/2020  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
You nailed it. Most NS-20's, along with many other tokens of that time period, are struck over 1811 Bristol Tokens for Samuel Guppy's Sheathing Nail Manufactory


Well played. I can't resist a well-placed pun!
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 Posted 10/28/2020  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't help myself fortcollins, haha

Here's an example of NS-20A1 in my collection that is similarly struck over a Bristol penny,


and a Wellington token (WE-2B2) struck over a Bristol halfpenny. The overstrike does not show as well in this example but is noticeable on the obverse head and the reverse lettering.



Wade, that is a super nice 1813 eagle!
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 Posted 10/28/2020  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've shown this coin a few years back but I thought I'd add it to this thread as it shows the host coin so strongly.

Cheers, Bill


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 Posted 10/28/2020  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great Nobis !

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 Posted 10/29/2020  12:29 am  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Hounddog Bill - very cool!
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 Posted 10/31/2020  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool Hounddog Bill.
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 Posted 12/23/2020  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Several years ago I posted a query concerning such overstruck tokens.

If the overstrike is pristine and shewing no evidence of wear, but the host token
is trashed, what grade does it deserve. Why should the condition of the host token be taken into consideration when grading. The over-strike is as struck.

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 Posted 12/26/2020  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would assume that the grade of the host should have nothing to with the grade of the restrike.
It wouldn't matter if the host was G or MS, however an MS strike might show through the restrike more promenentally.
Personally I prefer a more of the host showing and although it wouldn't change the grade it definately adds value (to me)
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