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1796 Draped Bust Dime For Grading Opinions

 
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 Posted 11/01/2020  11:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Asking for your thoughts on this Draped Bust dime. It's got prominent clash marks and die cracks, as well as the cud at star 1, characteristic of JR-1. There are some light hairlines and the patch of light scratches on the reverse, so I'm not sure if it will pull a details designation.



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 Posted 11/01/2020  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hunter611 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I can offer is that it is a cool coin and it has a lot going on.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok. I throw out a grade. AU details. If not details I'd give it a 53.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of character in this one. I like it.

Are the scratches on the reverse following the D in UNITED incuse or raised? If they're incuse, I think it's enough to Details it, AU Details, Scratches.
If they're raised I could see this straight grading, AU-53/55.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
unless this one has been stashed away for over 200 years it had to have been cleaned. hairline scratches are prominent on the reverse. I'm in the AU details area but this is still a sweet coin I just wish it had some original surfaces on it.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU55. I dont think it's been cleaned
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 Posted 11/01/2020  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The small patch of scratches next to the D on the reverse are not die polishing lines, but they are actually not very noticeable in hand. I used that light angle so they would be visible in the photo. There clearly are some light cleaning hairlines, especially on the obverse, but since most coins from this era have been cleaned, I'm hoping that PCGS will be lenient.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn70 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice!
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 Posted 11/01/2020  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want it haha
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 Posted 11/01/2020  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you buy this one raw? I presume you are confident the cud on the obverse is not an old repair or ex jewelry remnant. It is a nice coin but I think it may get an au details grade due to cleaning.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, bought it raw. Here's some info on this variety with the cud:

https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...c-jr-1/38742

Even if it gets an AU details grade, it looks nice in hand and I'm quite happy with it.
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 Posted 11/01/2020  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, it's a heckuva coin, regardless of assigned grade. Don't expect you will have many regrets for buying this little beauty.

The reverse scratches seem the most significant defect. The coin has very little wear and qualifies as AU-58 based on that criterion. Certainly PCGS or NGC may decide AU Details due to those scratches. The coin might however get a straight net-grade of 55 or 53.

Terrific coin either way. Congrats!
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 Posted 11/01/2020  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's been cleaned, just not badly, I also think it won't matter to PCGS on this series and date. It should go AU low end 50/53 range, maybe an EF45+ at worst, but still no details on it for cleaning, I am however worried about the area around the D of United on the reverse and the staple scratch down the field under the eagle's wing. Those areas could be trouble and cause a details grade alone, but not for any old cleaning. A neat variety and if bought as a normal dime and not for the variety well done!
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