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 Posted 12/26/2011  7:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just got finished looking through a bag of about $10 face in Lincoln cents with dates ending in 8 - 1968, 1978, 1988, 1998, and 2008.

I found zilch - nothing. Not one coin worth pulling out of the crowd. No wide-AMs, no transitional reverses, no RPMs, doubled dies - not even a single doubled column.

Sometimes this is just how it works.

Still makes me chuckle when beginners come on here posting how they are disappointed after going through 2 rolls and haven't found anything yet. I can go through $100 face and not find anything worth posting about.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know the feeling. You go through a couple hundred dollars in pennies,zilch.Then you get twenty and will get several.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too know the feeling Chuck. It's got to be tougher for you because you have knowledge of many more varities than I do.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to hear of your bad luck, coppercoins. It's hard for me to imagine going through that many coins, but I only learned what a 'roll search' was about 5 months ago. My local coin club had a roll search instead of a lecture one month. I didn't know what they were talking about! LOL I had to ask for an explanation.

My husband has been throwing his change into drawers and on top of the dresser and even into his empty pistachio canvas bags for ages. I haven't sorted through all of that yet. But once I started I found a keeper just about every other coin -- but now I know better so I started going through the keepers again.

But I will have to start over one more time because I got both volumes of the Cherry Pickers for Christmas. And now I am convinced, more than ever, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING! LOL

Maybe someday I will be able to imagine going though that many pennies but I doubt it will be any time soon.

Again, sorry for you bad luck -- but doesn't that make you think the next batch will be full of goodies?
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ditto! The other day, I bought a box of cents and the copper LMCs (pre-1982) ratio was about 1% and LWC ratio was zilch.
Normally the ratios run at 10% and 2% respectively. When I brought the box back, the one teller told me that someone just brought in another box the day before. I'll bet they gave me the already searched box. Whodathunkit?
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately - no.

I have hit streaks of a thousand coins before with nothing. Then another thousand. Then another. And int he next thousand I would find 20 coins with a lot of interest value. It's just how the game works.

I have been looking since 1983 to find a 1983 doubled die reverse. I have found a dozen doubled die obverses, but never a doubled die reverse. About four years ago I sent a box in trade to a collector in Florida for a better chance of finding a 1983 doubled die reverse. The box he sent to me was rather blank, but the box I sent to him contained a 1983 doubled die reverse. It's just the luck of the draw. I had one in my possession and sent it away.

I have been through more than 800,000 coins in my lifetime searching for die varieties. I have been lucky to pull thousands of them out of that group, and I know how uncommon it is to find them. The part that makes me chuckle are the number of people who think they can go through one change tray and find a diamond - it just doesn't work that way...at all.

As for me having 'knowledge of more die varieties' - that may be true, but I still hold firm to the same advice I give everyone else. Don't try to memorize a long list of what to look for - just look at everything for anything out of normal. That's the key. Know what all the normal coins look like, and know how to pick damaged coins from gems. That's all I do. I run into stuff all the time that I never knew existed.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Know what all the normal coins look like, and know how to pick damaged coins from gems. That's all I do. I run into stuff all the time that I never knew existed.

I would think that every variety (or at least most) were discovered this way.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hear ya, I just went through 25.00 of LMC of all year and only came up with the two MD 1983s I posted and a 2009 Formative Years DDR, to which there are several out there.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch! You've scared me off of trading.

I (sadly) am keeping every coin -- even though I have searched through them -- because I get tired and make mistakes. But I have a JAR of coins that I believe have Machine Doubling. I learned that from you! Thank you very much. But for awhile there I just couldn't believe my luck -- all these error coins! LOL

But I have to say in all honesty, that I went about it all wrong. I just had the Red Book and a magnifying glass. Not a bad start, but I had no clue about MD so I thought I had lots of error coins. And I would just pick one coin out of the tin and look it up, and look it over, decide whether or not to put it in a 2X2 or into 'take to the bank' jar.

I should have just started with pennies and sorted them by year and bought a couple more books...but I didn't.

No matter, it's fun and it's a hobby for me. But I am getting smarter about searching through the change. And since I was born in 1955 I'm hoping to find...nah, not gonna happen. LOL
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 Posted 12/26/2011  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After reading this thread, I have to add: if you think you know everything, it's time for a new book! :D
I set aside all my old coins from circulation to re-search once new knowledge is mainstreamed.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a bit like fossicking for opals at Coober Pedy, only you haven't got the heat and dust to contend with.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Last night as a pay-back to myself for not finding anything in the '8' bag, I went through a couple of rolls-worth of the '3' bag. Coins dated 1963, 1973, 1983, 1993, 2003. I ran into plenty of 1983 cents - but alas - nothing. Nothing at all, save one 1993 doubled column that I tossed back in the pile because of grade.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Don't try to memorize a long list of what to look for - just look at everything for anything out of normal. That's the key. Know what all the normal coins look like, and know how to pick damaged coins from gems.

Exactly. You know what normal is so when you find something that isn't normal you think it over to make sure it isn't damage and is something that can occur during the minting process.


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I would think that every variety (or at least most) were discovered this way.

I would say so too. People who search coins looking for a SPECIFIC error don't find new things because it isn't the thing they are looking for. They are "searching" with blinders on.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pman860507 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In all of my roll searching I have not found anything. though I have only been though about $60 With $18 left in current box, but I have found a few RPM in wheat cents I have bought from my local dealer.

All in good time is what I keep telling my self.

Then I look at what I have found in my wheats I have searched and it keeps me going. even though I still have 2 big bags of wheats I have to find time for.
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 Posted 12/28/2011  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bough a coin off ebay that was supposed to be a RPM, but it wasn't. But after looking over the coin I discovered it was a new DDO that wasn't listed yet on coppercoins.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
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Things tend to come in clumps, no matter which denomination I am hunting...nothing..nothing..nothing..then, bam..2, 3, 4 of the same...happened to me in August and found 4 1996 lathe lines in 2 rolls...I just searched a $50.00 box of cents from my local bank..the best I could do was 2 tilted partial collars...the worst recently was a "bullion" buy off ebay..most sellers don't have time to search all rydale-sorted cents, and, I have done pretty well in the past...this time...nothing..there's nothing worse than that sinking feeling you know your probably skunked..but, I could NOT NOT finish searching the leftovers of that $15.00Face-lot, as I kept hitting 69-s one was machine doubled, and gave me a 2-second heart attack...then, back to reality..
Bottom line? I'll NEVER give up the hunt!
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