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1958 Washington No Reeding

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Hello everyone. I would like everyone's opinion on this piece please. I found it in an old collection of silver that a gentlemen kept from his change when he was a child in the 1950's and 1960's. It appears to have no reeding on the edges and it does not look like the reeding has been worn off or removed purposely or anything of that sort. The edge is completely flat and there are no inconsistencies in it as if any machinery did it either. The edge appears to have EXTREMELY faint lines where the reeding should be but they are very faint and not raised at all. A very odd coin and I have never seen anything like this in all the silver I've been through in my short days. Also, I have compared a silver washington on either side to get an idea in comparison. Any ideas or comments would be appreciated! Thanks!

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On the obverse above LIBERTY, I see hints of reeds. And in your last picture, it appears the coin is slightly smaller than a quarter with reeds. I would bet the reeded edge was just ground smooth Can you weigh the coin?
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Spent time in an industrial dryer.
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It weighs between 6.2 and 6.3 grams
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The quarter was ground/polished down on the edge - no doubt about it.

Some notes from wiki on minting since they say it better than I can;

The reeds are imparted into the coin through a third die called a collar. The collar is the final size of the coin, and the planchet expands to fill the collar when struck. When the collar is missing, it results in a type of error called a broadstrike. A broadstruck coin is generally a bit flatter and quite a bit bigger around than the regular non-error coin of the same denomination.

Since your quarter is a tad bit smaller than a standard silver quarter, there is no way it could be struck without the collar and be smaller, the die pressure during minting would flatten the quarter planchet out to be larger than normal (the broadstrike). There is no smooth edged collar die in quarter size, only nickle and cent in modern era coinage use those.
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I have to agree that the coin is either worn down or been ground down because a coin that was struck without a collar would be bigger than a normal coin, not smaller. I doubt it was a Dryer Coin because they usually deform the edges and this one really doesn't show like the other Dryer Coins I have seen. It does look like some of the coins from vegas that has been used in slot machines over and over though, so that may have been what has happened to this coin in my opinion
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Looks like it was a coin ring project. Spooned edge. Note how the planchet was reduced and also widened. Popular in the 1960's to make a silver ring. Still popular today.
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coop, I don't wear any rings, but I actually like those.
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