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1908 $5 Indian  1909 $5 Indian  1913-S $5 Indian  1914-S $5 Indian  1915-S $5 Indian 
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I consider myself a total novice on the grading of these coins, but I intend to buy a half eagle of this design in the next 12 months or so.
From the pictures, it seems the things to look out for are
wear on the banding and feathers of the head dress (obv.), and
wear on the shoulder of the eagle (rev.), plus
nicks and scratches on the edges of the rims and in the fields.
I would guess that these coins would grade in the range of AU 50 to 58.
I am happy for someone to disagree with me, because I stand to learn a little about how to grade these coins. This is my first ever attempt to grade for this type.
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AU-55/58
AU-53
AU-58
AU-50
AU-50 or high XF-45
Edited by coinguybrian
01/20/2012 04:21 am
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Nice set, they look like something you might find in a your pick box at a show XF/AU raw gold.
I'd say coinguybrian is pretty close, though I don't think any would make an AU58 grade. 45-55 grades only.
1908 AU55
1909 AU53
1913 AU55
1914 AU50
1915 XF45
The incuse series have always been one of the tougher coins for me to get right - so bear that in mind!
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Just curious, but what grades did you buy the coins?
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 Those are not little Indians, I expected IHC's |
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overall grade for the group AU.
Edited by jessvc1
01/20/2012 11:02 am
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AU-53 for the first two, AU-50 for the 1913-S, and EF-45 for the numbers 4 and 5. The 1909 and 1914-S show some reverse hairlines but probably not enough to deserve a "cleaned" label.
Is the 1908 a Denver coin? I think I see a phantom D mintmark.
Very nice little Indians!
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Awesome tribe my friend! I have the same problem, been buying gold like crazy, and the $5 indians are my favorite! I'm going for a full set of circ examples, and I'm about half way there by number, but I have none of the keys...
I would grade the group from high XF to low/mid AU. For upper AU -MS I would expect more luster, but these are really hard to grade from pictures alone. None look cleaned or otherwise problematic. They are very nice coins, and you got some better dates to boot!
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Quote:Those are not little Indians, I expected IHC's LOL...sorry about the "bait and switch". This is as opposed to the bigger $10 Indians I guess. |
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I plan on releasing the PCGS grades in the next day or so. And, I do agree there's not much luster (if any) to speak of on these coins. Also, they are probably amongst the toughest U.S. regular issues to grade.
I really do like this little group, too, and in hand the coins are very satisfactory. These are my first half eagles ever. I will say that the last one was likely dipped, but not too harshly as it has more of a yellowish color and the others all do have a slight orangish tinge to them.
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I'm seeing a lot of strike flatness. My skills don't allow me to grade these accurately, but heavy-looking wear confined to the very point of the shoulder (especially with the '08 and '09) makes me start thinking about strike rather than circulation. I would expect wear to extend further down the wing for the very tips to be so flat.
I won't hazard guesses, but if there's an MS grade in this bunch somewhere I won't be shocked.
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Quote:Those are not little Indians, I expected IHC's I was expecting the same!  However, these coins are not much bigger than a nickel. They are little, at least when compared to eagles and double-eagles. One dollar gold would have been better.  |
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I am thinking AU-53, AU-50, and EF-45 for the last 3. Very nice coins!
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SuperDave: I won't hazard guesses, but if there's an MS grade in this bunch somewhere I won't be shocked. Incuse struck coins are a tough to grade for me too, I failed on many of them during my time at grading classes at the ANA, that is why I would only buy certified examples. I agree I wouldn't be shocked with a MS grade on one of more of these either. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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those are some nice coins prethen!  |
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