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Coincarrie New Member United States 25 Posts	Posted 02/10/2012 4:13 pm What are the most popular Morgan "coin turn" deviation? (Assuming I am wording this subject correctly.) Report this Post to the Staff

Fuzzy317 Moderator United States 14463 Posts	Posted 02/10/2012 6:54 pm Are you talking about die rotation? where one side is not exactly in coin alignment? I am not sure if you're asking which is most popular for collectors or most popular in how many exist. Report this Post to the Staff
biggfredd Rest in Peace United States 9104 Posts	Posted 02/10/2012 7:05 pm , Coincarrie! If you mean orientation, US coins are "coin reverse", unless the dies rotate. This means they flip around the 9-3 axis. Medal reverse coins flip around the 12-6 axis. Report this Post to the Staff
Coincarrie New Member United States 25 Posts	Posted 02/10/2012 7:51 pm I am trying to understand if there is a difference between a "coin turn" and a VAM. Is a "coin turn" a variation in the VAM documentation? Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9794 Posts	Posted 02/10/2012 11:26 pm All Morgan dollars are VAMs (die pairing by known obverse and reverse dies). A specific rotation on a coin is not a VAM in itself, all coins could concievably have rotation. Morgan dollars are pretty hard to find with more than 5% rotation, and any more than that will bring a good premium generally. I've seen a few 15%-180% they usually bring at least $100.00+ over the value of the grade and date the more the rotation the higher the price asked is generally the rule. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 02/11/2012 01:26 am Coin -Turn or die rotation, I believe is not a consideration until it goes beyond 15%,,,as the coin it self is considered... There are many coins noted for "DIE ROTATION" Usually these are known only by rotation itself...However when clashing occurs....Rotation evidence becomes increasingly evident..... Usually on small rotations...of say, 2 degree's to say 7 degree's,,, in general we find LETTER TRANSFERS. which are VAM points of interest....Most rotations I have seen are by nature Rotations...of per say 30, 45,90 or 180 degree's but not ADVERTISED as letter transfers type errors...thats and interesting thought.... Report this Post to the Staff
Coincarrie New Member United States 25 Posts	Posted 02/11/2012 1:01 pm Thank you for the information. Now I understand. I have some Morgans that look as if they are double stamped on the "T" . Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9794 Posts	Posted 02/12/2012 12:57 am Which "T"? There are several, Liberty on the the headress forehead "In God We Trust" & United States on the reverse. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
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