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On The Maddening 1970-S SD

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I've got 27 1970s cents.

Is the SD variety the kind one would need magnification in order to detect in-hand, or should it be obvious enough to detect with the naked eye?

Also, I know coop's got an image of red 1970s floating around illustrating the difference, but I find it not very helpful with cents in their wonted, extracted from the wild, brown coloration.

Could someone with both a SD and a LD in brown post pics of theirs?
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Here is how I tell them apart personally. I hold the coin with the L in LIBERTY at the six o'clock position. That allows my eye to make an imaginary line headed up across the tops of the numbers in the date. If the second 7 is slightly to the right of that line it is a Large Date. If the 7 is even with the tops of the other numbers it is a Small Date. Also, the word LIBERTY, especially the last few letters, are always weakly struck, almost to the point of being unreadable. I don't have any images to post; I'm on my work computer! I have a photo of a Small Date that I found coin roll hunting; when I get home to my computer later today I will try to dig it out.

Went through my photos; can't find it. And I no longer have the coin. Glad to see that John posted a pic of one.
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Here is the one I found https://goccf.com/t/77301 Does that help you any?
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I think it will, I'll have to check my stash again tonight.

My pessimistic half thinks "just my luck I'll have had all LDs all along "
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just my luck I'll have had all LDs all along
Yeah--that's all I got from searching rolls for 10+ years, back when there were at least 2 70-S per roll. I was certain I had to find one in circulation, so I started seeing a small date where none existed. But, once you see a SD in person, you realize how obvious they are. Although I never found one in circulation, but some here have done it--good luck!
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the first thing I look for is where the tip of the bottom of the 7 is. That usually tips me most of the time. It I question I go to the angle of the inside of the 9 and whether the ends of the 9 are flat or chizzled.
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After finaly breaking down and buying a loupe and getting it, I poured all over my 1970s cents yesterday.

I found one that I think is a SD.

I then spent a half an hour plus trying to get the best photos I could muster of the thing.

here is a link to those photos.

Do I haz da small daet?
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still looks LD to me. looks like top of the 7 not in line with tops of 9 or 0
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Sorry--I'm thinking a LD, but the pics are sorta small.
It's very difficult to find one in circulation.
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The pictures showing is a 'large date'
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Looks like a ld to me.
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Large date for sure.
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Most newbies and even others have difficulty with IDing SDs. Many have suggested studying coop's fine pictures or even buying a SD to keep as a reference. Either way, it's just like learning to ride a bike. Difficult at first, but when you get it-you got it!
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I can tell most of the time with out magnification. I go off the bottom of the 7 and the top of the 7. If the bottom of the 7 is below the 0 its a LD....if it is even with it..then I go to the top and see if it looks even with the 9 and the 0. If that is even then I look at the 9 and make sure it curls inwards and points towards the middle of the 7 and not to the bottom of it. If all these things are present I feel I don't need a loupe. If some are and some are not then I would go in for a closer look. With all of that being said....I have never found a wild SD....I bought mine in MS64RD condition...
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