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Any Interest In The Varieties Of William III Halfpennies?

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Some years ago, I began studying the differences in the halfpennies of William III.
Peck listed some major varieties. Others, perhaps more minor ones, were ignored. (Mis-spellings, letters or numerals punched too high or too low, etc.). Others have turned up over the years.

I was told at the time that many varieties exist because this series was so poorly made. (Cast blanks, etc).
That there was just no interest.

I laid my box of halfpennies, and my notes, aside.

Is that still the case? No interest?


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Here's a link to completed auctions, perhaps that will help answer you.
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Thanks, NickelGuy. Very interesting!

I think you will agree that the bidders were probably looking for 'major' Peck-listed or Krause-listed types, like "Date in Legend".
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I am unfamiliar with the coin, but with your post up there I found them attractive and some could be found very affordable and in nice condition. I should read a bit about William III and learn a little history.
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I didn't mean to criticize. Sorry if I came across that way.

I was trying to say that these pieces were not the kind of thing (varieties) I was asking about. I'm thinking about the kind of differences that a US Large Cent collector (say), might look for.


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No criticism at all, never took anything that way at all. I went and read a bit on William and Mary there after your post, certainly no harm at all. Learning a little about William III did not hurt a bit although, I won't be writing a biography about him anytime soon, I think he has been very well covered by now.
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It looks like a fascinating series to collect and study but there seems to be very little documentation of the varieties available. Why not write up your notes and put together a good website on varieties of William III halfpennies?
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My question is how would one, without proper contemporary or otherwise official documentation, distinguish a legitimate variety from a poorly executed counterfeit?
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HUMM!
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My question is how would one, without proper contemporary or otherwise official documentation, distinguish a legitimate variety from a poorly executed counterfeit?


That discussion will naturally follow after all the "varieties" are described and well documented. Some counterfeits will be obvious (wrong weight, crude style, etc) and others not so obvious.

If however, after weighing all the evidence, any new "varieties" listed are deemed to be contemporary counterfeits, this is useful information to have and these counterfeits will still be highly collectible.
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Coincraft lists 29 major varieties in 7 dates for the William 111 halfpenny.

This seems to be a very difficult series to study due to the large number of minor varieties. It seems that what constitutes a 'major' or 'minor' variety is a matter of judgement on the part of the collector.

This whole issue revolves around the fact that the series was poorly made by contractors trying to skimp on production costs. This situation opened the door for counterfeiters.
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