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1931 Wheat Cent What Is This.... Doubling? Please Look At Pics

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 Posted 05/14/2012  7:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hogskins2win to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I plucked this strange looking cent out of 5000ct bag. Looks like a keeper to me, what do you all think?


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Could this be something worth keeping?



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Might it be a coin to slab?



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Pics don't dispaly it well but there is a "Y" below the T in LIBERTY.




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I value your comments and would love to hear your thoughts on this piece!
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 Posted 05/14/2012  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papatony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks like a double hit with a rotation ! I would def keep it, put it in a air tight. See what the experts say about slabbing I am not to good with that. But Def a Double!! Nice Find !!
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 Posted 05/14/2012  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a keeper. It's almost a hundred years old and the date is still visible!

As for the all that other stuff ... I am clueless so I will be back to learn from the experts.

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 Posted 05/14/2012  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the damage on the reverse raises an eyebrow. waiting for the experts ...
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 Posted 05/14/2012  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hogskins2win to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wait.... belay that, there is a T below the LIBERTY and a Y above that pics fail to display well.

Yes, that REV damage has me wondering too!

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 Posted 05/14/2012  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Geez , that thing took a whack huh ?

Really odd , multiple strikes ? .. Cant say I've seen one quite like this ..

Unique find , COngrats and id say thats one to HOLD onto lol ..

Good find indeed wow ..

Cant wait to here from some of the Cent guru's

Good luck-
Phil \m/
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 Posted 05/14/2012  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the full liberty above , and the Y and blurriness below the strong liberty ..

Strange the more I look it seems to be a Photo trick and mess's with ME EYES lol .. Just odd the Date and front of linc look so well ..

ReEEeeaallyy Has me curious ... Ill be watching this one ..

again nice/interesting Find .

Phil
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 Posted 05/14/2012  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys

I ran this coin through my SPM software to see if we can see the item under LIBERTY, hope you can see it better.


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 Posted 05/14/2012  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I tried looking into the photo you had up first . and tried to focus it in to show what I see ..

Seems like "3" sets of LIBERTY to my eye .. And I tried going through my error book to try and match it to something with no luck .. So curious what this will wind up being labeled ..

Will be taking notes on this one lol .

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 Posted 05/14/2012  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ARROWS lol are in kinda random areas , but roughly the spots I'm seeing the letters ..

like I said , dono if its my eyes or what haha .. time to givem a break for a bit haha .

Good luck .

Phil \m/
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 Posted 05/14/2012  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking a counterbrockage with a rotating die cap. But I am not an expert.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ohh CaptainFwiffo -

That is a good thought .! ...

Checking out some of the "CounterBrockages and Rotating Die Cap" I can see that causing what we see here ..

Great Thinking ElCapteetan.! ;-)

Phil \m/

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 Posted 05/15/2012  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is damaged, most likely by someone pplaying with a hammer and a soft die. If it were multiple struck in any circumstance, the reverse sould not be flattened and bowed like this coin. Striking the obverse takes a reverse, and this coin had no reverse die when these so-called strikes were made. So post-mint damage it is.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the coin is damaged but I believe
it was done so during the initial strike/strikes.
At least some of it.
A lot going on here on both the ovb. and rev.
That first shelving from the neck down to the shoulder
(M.D.) would be hard to do with just a soft die hammering.
I think there was some debris on the rev. die and the hammer
die was messed up some. I.E.: Excessive pressure and or a loose collar. Still no big deal but interesting anyway.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Garage job. Chuck got it. The reverse would show the same rotation as the obverse. And the date is not affected, so it was not struck that way at the mint.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
someone in there garage made a negative and hit this thing but did not sell it on ebay? interesting find though, its a shame its not double struck.
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