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Recognizing Someone Else's Dump

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 Posted 08/21/2012  4:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add maverick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What are some good ways to tell if the bank you're buying rolls from is someone else's dump.

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 Posted 08/21/2012  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Marked coins, opened and resealed machine rolls, and of course, no NIFCs or silver!
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 Posted 08/21/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elfof4sky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry, I'll probably figure it out after I post this question, but what does NIFC stand for?
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NIFC: Not Intended for Circulation.

Also, if you see rolls with a mark on them. Like a black dot, or a line, probably means they have been searched.
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Some people do mark their used roles - I suggest you also get a monogram. Something unique to you, assymetrical, with a top.

Be helpful to your fellow role hunters, if you've searched, mark em up. Or, if you want to get in there for money, make it something small, as he sats, a dot or a line. Or an arrangement of dots.
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ive seen coins being marked up with sharpie, I hate this, because even if a coin is worthless to someone, I might need it to fill a hole dnt mark coins =)
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 Posted 08/21/2012  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cmajlz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got a box of nickels and paid particular attention to how the coins were marked with sharpies. Coins were marked by filling in the eye, coloring the tip of the nose, filling in the dome on the back, a line on the forehead and chin. You could tell these were not random marks.
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Unless they are rolls from the mint, every roll or bag the bank has is someone's "dump", be it granny who discovers grand dad's stash after he is gone, or the business down the street that drops off a few rolls from a customer that paid in coin.
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Maverick, I'm lucky enough to be able to hunt at the same bank my work uses for our change (they seem to get a lot of good stuff), so here is my suggestion, complete with script:

"I collect [coin denomination] and was wondering if you had any customer-wrapped rolls I could buy."


For some strange reason, these seem to produce a lot more goodies than machine-wrapped rolls--every single IHC, War Nickel, piece of silver that was not handed to me directly by a customer, and most of my early-early wheats (i.e., before 1935 or so) have come from customer-wrapped rolls. The only exceptions I can think of are two Buffalo nickels and, I think, one IHC (plus my silver certs, of course).

Some folks here will tell you not to say you're a collector; your mileage may vary. I'm a young woman dealing with mostly young female tellers, so when I see one I don't know I always smile and say "I'm one of those awful coin collectors, I'll try not to be a pain." That approach netted me three Prez dollars I didn't yet have (teller gave me her loose coin instead of just handing me a roll) and a look at another teller's drawer of halves at her prerogative, not mine--"do you collect half-dollars? Somebody came in an hour ago and gave me a whole bunch" (unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it was somebody else's dump).

A final note: if you're asked why you want customer-wrapped--which I was, once, by a teller who seemed very confused--a good answer is "There's a lot more variety in those rolls." This has the advantage of both being honest, and not telling the teller that they may be missing some valuable goodies.
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ive bought some rolls from a bank that had about 4 black sharpie dots on the rolls themselves, not on the coins themselves though
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 Posted 08/24/2012  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CWS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's hard to tell if the box is searched just by looking at the top of the rolls for potential searcher markings.

If you get boxes from the bank and the rolls are opened on one end, not machine wrapped. These are things that make me suspicious of having already been searched.
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maverick Posted - 08/21/2012 : 6:34 pm
ive seen coins being marked up with sharpie, I hate this, because even if a coin is worthless to someone, I might need it to fill a hole dnt mark coins =)


I'm noticing this more than ever for banknotes and wheresgeorge... So frustrating to find a fancy note that's got writing and stamp marks all over the bill

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With cents, missing copper....I've gotten customer rolls that were devoid of copper.....as well as anything worth more than 1 cent.
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in my experience,

i usually ask the tellers if anyone else comes in here and does what I do... dump A LOT OF coin or pick up A LOT..

hunters usually deal with a lot of coin.. USUALLY.. not always.

so if a teller says we got a large deposit of X denomination, usually tends to be a dump.. if she says they had a large deposit, I ask a bit about the deposit, one time I remember asking and good thing I did.. she said it was an elderly lady.. LIGHT BULB>... those are the dumps you want, turned out to be 4 solid rolls of 64 dimes, 2 rolls of kennedy/ franlins, 6 rolls of Buffalo nickles, and $20 of truly unopened cent rolls from the early 60's... nice RPMS there...

i also get suspicious of certain tellers, knowing what they know and being in on the silver game, I suspect that they snag the silver out of the rolls when I go cold for a few $100's, but then BAm I find one, so I usually rule out tellers searching through customer rolls, unless they know what OLD rolled coin looks like...

but basically strike up conversation and just get an idea of who the teller see in the bank often and if anyone LIKE yourself has come in.. but certainly buy a few $100's worth of a certain denomination and if you hit paydirt, keep on coming back
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 Posted 08/28/2012  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nandemo1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just got 50 customer wrapped cents and noticed pretty quickly they had been searched. Some rolls were machine rolls that were reused, now I realize this should have been a clue. The rolls tended to be a close range of dates rather than a variety. I was able to get about 10 rolls of copper (kinda low based on recent experience) but only a single wheat and no canadians. Kinda frustrating, it takes the fun out of it when you dump a roll and they are all a single year.
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And it seems I need to switch banks for my cents, picked up my second box of the week from my closest branch and it seems to be another dumper. 20% copper, but not one Wheat or Canadian. Half the rolls were Coin-tainers the other half were standard wrappers. The box was sealed with clear packing tape and a note saying "Full Box, 50 Rolls".
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