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1853-O Type I Gold Dollar-What Do You Think? (Ngc)

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I am moving on to the $1 Gold piece. I found this little number and wanted to see what the CCF thought of it in comparison to NGC. It is presently priced a little higher than trends, but I don't have any New Orleans gold...yet. Those other three mints (CC, Charlotte and Dahlonega) are way up there in price!

Thanking you in advance!

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 Posted 10/18/2012  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a '53 gold dollar also. (about the same comndition as this example)
Question:
Why is it that the edge denticles are always weak with this series?
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 Posted 10/18/2012  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gold coin is one of the toughest series to grade, simply costly to own for regular collectors and I find TPG grades often conflict with one and other.

That said, I guess MS-62.
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 Posted 10/18/2012  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sel_69l, although I do not know the "real" answer, I would veture to guess that it's because of the over size (weight, thickness, etc...) of the planchets;

Type 1 Gold Dollar Specifications
Diameter: 13.0 mm
Weight: 1.672 g
Minted: 1849-1854 (C, D, O, P & S)
Composition: .100 Cu .900 Au
Designer : James Longacre
Edge: Reeded

http://www.us-coin-values-advisor.c...ld-coin.html
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I need to get one with a mint mark! The two I have are phillies!
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 Posted 10/18/2012  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin and well struck for an O mint. My guess is they went AU-55 on this one.
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AU, with slight wear at the top of Liberty's head, friction in the fields, and quite a bit of remaining luster around the periphery. The center of the reverse is sharply-defined which is not always the case for Type 1 gold dollars, especially branch mint issues.

The bad news is that there are perhaps enough diagonal hairline scratches to warrant a "cleaned" notation on a TPG holder.

If it is priced higher than Trends I would suspect it is over-priced.
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I think NGC gave it AU58.
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I think I would personally grade it AU-55 but given this is from New Orleans, I think they bumped it up to AU-58.
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as long as it wasn't stuck with a "cleaned/details" label, I would guess AU-55. And is that a small die crack on the obverse about 5-o'clock.
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Au50 me thinks after comparing it to mine
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I agree that it has a strong reverse lettering, in comparison to others of the series. I just can't pull the trigger on $135 over trends (asking $485, trends 350) for this piece. This is not the best slab image, but it gets the point across;

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If you are interested;

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1...iqnQodQQ4AVw
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oih82w8: I have a chance to check your theory out.

I have a silver 1904 2 1/2 centimos Panama 'Pill', which is around the same size but a bit thicker than a gold dollar. 900 fine silver would be a little harder than gold.
I just have to find the little blighter in the 4,500 odd World coins in my collection.

Guess that you are going to have to wait for a short time!

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Found it! The rim denticles are a little sharper than the gold dollar, so I can't quite make up my mind (so far) about the theory. The jury is still out.
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10/19/2012 10:08 am
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UPDATE: I got it! The seller went from a "Buy It Now" to auction and I did the old "bid and forget it" (for the most part, I was on the road when it closed).
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Did you get it for 350?
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