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"Defacing" Kennedy Half Dollars?

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 Posted 11/24/2012  8:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MHBama to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been collecting for a short time. I have noticed on a lot of half dollars through which I have sorted that often I find ones with a Sharpie mark on them, often a large red or black "J." I suppose this is some way of an individual marking rolls he has examined? Any insight?

(I reside in Alabama so this may be a regional thing. I found coins marked this way locally in Birmingham as well as coins ordered directly from the Federal Reserve Bank.)
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 Posted 11/24/2012  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who knows don't know why they just put a mark on the rolls returned to the bank ..thats what I've done before..But I use my rolls for gas. But who knows the reasoning behind that!
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 Posted 11/24/2012  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in the NE. We have a population of cretins up here who think marking up halves w/ sharpies & magic markers is the national pastime. If it wasn't for them, I think the sharpie & magic marker manufacturers would go bankrupt.
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 Posted 11/25/2012  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew289 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back when I used to roll search, I used to mark an X on the first and last coin in the roll when I returned them. I also used to spray paint them blaze orange. That way I could track the coins that I return. If a few months later I saw my mark show up again, I knew that they were not going far (instead of being returned to the Fed for different ones). Often in the more rual area and small town banks, roll searchers keep searching the same old rolls, month after month and year after year. How else would you know if you didnt mark them?

Best of luck ..keep an eye out for the blaze orange ones.
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 Posted 11/25/2012  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem I have with people marking the coins is that not everyone is looking for the things I am. So I end up with coins, that if I want them, I have to drop them in acetone and hope the defacing comes off. Recently I got a beautiful 2007 D JFK... until I turned it over. Whatever the person marked it with, had a chemical reaction with the acetone and hardened. That JFK USED to be a gem - but I had to throw it back b/c it would have taken scraping to get the marks off of the back. Finding one of these painted really would have upset me.

I look for "no FG" coins, DDO's etc. And I also am angered when I have to hope the marks come off of these coins.

Then there was the case where I got a 1982S proof in circulation that had a large black circle drawn on it...

If someone HAS to mark coins, then be considerate and mark the ones where no one might want them. Find the dates for which there are no collectable varieties people and mark them (such as the plentiful 1971 P, or non-MS bicentennials).

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I can't think of what someone would mark a coin with that would harden in acetone, considering acetone is a solvent. Especially when you consider that it is primarily paint and ink that are used to mark coins.

Paint and ink come off easily with acetone, so I have no problem with someone marking coins. I do it as well for the reason stated. I want to know if I start getting back the coins I have already gone through. And considering the complete ease of removing sharpy marks, there isn't anything there to worry over.
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yes marking coins, lots of people do it with halves. 99% of the batches I search have one guys mark on them. It doesn't really mean anything I still find coins in the batches. I marked a bunch of coins two or 3 times, just to see how quickly I got them back. What I learned was two out of three times I got the same coins back within 1-1.5 monthes. What happend to the 3rd batch I marked. I eventually saw those coins, but I believe they went back out, someone else searched them, they got turned in again, then I got them. I found silver coins in with mine every time.

If you want to know where your dumps go, marking a few coins may help, other then that, really no point in marking large numbers of coins.
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marking the rolls really wouldnt help me, I have 90% of my boxes set up at dump banks that unwrap the rolls, bag the coins and send them back that week. I only do 2 boxes a week, that I just "free drop" at any bank I have an account with.
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MHBama!

"Marking" coins, weather individually or by the roll (dating myself on paper rolls) seems to be a common practice for roll hunters. Why bother looking through a roll that you have already looked through, right?

I would not put markers on the coin itself, I may not need it but somebody else might and you just "boogered" it up for the next hunter.

Then again, it may be some sort of tracking thing, kind of like "where's George" stamps on $1 bills?
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I do not like coins being marked, but knowing that they are usually very easily fixed with acetone keeps me from going on a witch hunt.
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i hate seeing marked coins plain and simple I rarely use the word hate but for that I have no problem saying it hate it hate it
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I seem to remember something about defacing American currency being against the law, in addition to its other objectionable attributes. Isn't it against the law?
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http://www.moneyfactory.gov/histori...slation.html

It is a matter of interpretation. Read for yourself at the above site.
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 Posted 11/26/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jerseyben -- Thanks for the info. Good reference.

As usual, the law seems to have been written with one of those 36" wide brooms that you sweep driveways with, so those in the law enforcement/criminal justice biz can have a field day choosing to enforce it when/where/why/how/if it pleases them to enforce it. I think that particular section comes close to defying comprehension for a lot of us.

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A couple years ago, a Coin World article asked who would punch #1 in a KHD..
When you would pick up rolls of KHD you would find these..100's of them, I think this would be defacing..

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It is a matter of interpretation. Read for yourself at the above site.
That link applies to currency. Coins and currency are not the same.

The only law against defacing coins is the one that says it is illegal to alter or deface them with the intent to commit fraud.
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