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I got a lot of nice feedback on a New Jersey copper that I found earlier this year while detecting the ruins of a tavern along an old turnpike.

I mentioned my best find, an Oak Tree Shilling, Noe-14 (Spiny Tree). NGC gave it a Very Fine details when it was slabbed, but they specified the wrong variety, even though they only use a few varieties that are detailed in the Red Book (there are 14 varieties in total). I haven't dealt with NCG since and no little about their current reputation, but I wasn't impressed with their mistake. The Spiny Tree is included in the Red Book, so they clearly go it wrong. Regardless of the slab, this is my very best find, and I've been trying to find another Mass Silver coin ever since. When I dug it from the ground (see photo), I knew exactly what I had. It was quite the experience. I included pictures with varying degrees of lighting to give an honest representation of the coin's detail and toning.


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Great find! Very nice detail and appears to be minimal corrosion.
My main collecting interests are Colonials. Don't have one of these yet.
BTW, I know what excitement your talking about. I felt that way in 1994 when I detected my first gold nugget in the Arizona desert.
Well done :-)
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that's an incredible piece of history
congrats
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Very simply....WOW!
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Amazing find! I hope that someday I will be able to own a piece like that. Just curious, where did you find this? No need to go into specifics if you don't want to, just a general area is fine.
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That is a beautiful coin, a wonderful story, and a rare variety. Well done!!
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Simply PUT .... SUPER !
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Just curious, where did you find this? No need to go into specifics if you don't want to, just a general area is fine.


I found it in Rhode Island on a worked farm field where a colonial-period house once stood. I had researched the area, and a 1770's map provided the approximate location. Prior to finding the Oak Tree shilling, I had recovered several English coppers, musket balls, shoe buckle, etc. on the site. I've since recovered some Spanish silver cobs & King William coppers from the 1690's from various locations, but another Mass Silver coin still eludes me.
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Wow--that's a beautiful find--congrats! The elements were pretty kind to that coin.

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Now that's a treasure worth going after, nice find!
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Bravo! Beautiful coin and great story too! Keep it up.
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Very awesome find! Wow!! Just wow!! I live in a very historical part of western mass and this is my dream find!! Congrats!!
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What a great find! Thank you for sharing the pictures and the story behind it. That's the kind of thing we all dream about. It's nice to see it actually happens occasionally.

Oh, and great due diligence to achieve this type of outcome!
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 Posted 12/15/2012  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vinnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for sharing this exceptional piece of history! It is one to be proud of!
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NG may be one of the top two TPG's but never trust their attributions. They are wrong way too often. (In some cases up to about a 10% error rate) They don't have to be more accurate as they do not guarantee attributions like PCGS does. Of course the rub there is tha PCGS doesn't attribute as many varieties as NGC does. So NGC gets them wrong and PCGS doesn't do them. You want accurate attributions go with ANACS or even better SEGS.
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Didn't think you were going to get away without showing us this one, did you?
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