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 Posted 12/16/2012  12:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
about 95% of his coins are titled "key date" so am I wrong with thinking he should get them authenticated?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/cameron93/m...=p4340.l2562

this gets me the most.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-CANADA...2a105&_uhb=1

it is so hard finding a MS-66 1935 at a decent price, un-certified it could be a MS-64 - Ms-66

Moderator note: We do not just change posts when we feel like it if we get responses we don't like. You used the "notes" button, thank you. But we don't change things and put posts completely out of context if things don't happen immediately. Tights24
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12/16/2012 12:58 pm
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 Posted 12/16/2012  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jake,

If you're going to criticize someone... perhaps you should at least be "accurate" with your comments :)

I've got 388 coins currently listed... my top 100 in value have 30 listings that contain "Key Date" in the title... the rest of my listed coins are not as rare as the first 100... so in fact, probably about 10% to 15% of my listings contain "Key Date" in the title...

Jake, is it ok to call say a 1947 ML dollar a "key date"... or how about an 1884 five cent... or an 1875 ten cent... or an 1875, 1885, and 1887 twenty five cent, etc.

Is it a problem that I happen to have a lot of "Key Dates"...? I would think a fellow collector would kind of think that was great!

And re the 1935 silver dollar, why should it "get you the the most" that this coin is in gem condition? I've looked closely at hundreds of ICCS MS65 / MS66 graded coins, and this one happens to be one of the nicest I've ever seen.

I enjoy and learn a lot from reading the posts by many of the very knowledgeable and friendly members of CCF... just finished spending a half-hour doing research and posting a reply... and then I look to find a member being negative about my listings... oh well, I guess you can't please everyone... :)

There's many, many CCF members here who regularly purchase coins from me Jake... and likewise I've also bought from many CCF members.

I've bought and sold thousands of coins on ebay for past 6 years with 100% feedback. My listings have lots of clear, close-up photos... and I offer no-questions-asked full money refunds for any unsatisfied customer... in 6 years that's happened one time.

I put a lot of effort and pride into my work, and provide fantastic customer service... read the feedback comments I get.

The reason I don't get my coins "authenticated" is I've been buying and selling coins for 40 years now and figure I've got a pretty good idea what is authentic or not...

The reason my coins are mostly raw and ungraded is because there's a large segment of collectors who like to buy coins raw and that's the market I'm catering to...

Anyhow, sorry for the rant boys... but guys that criticize when they don't really have their facts straight... "that's what get's me the most" :)

Best Wishes all for a Happy Holiday Season!

cameron93
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 Posted 12/16/2012  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great reply, cameron93.

And.. Welcome to the Forum..

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12/16/2012 05:48 am
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 Posted 12/16/2012  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lesinwestvan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent reply cameron93.

I also do alot of buying and selling on ebay and sometime I'm put off by the negative comments posted by others in regards to ebay listings. I guess I've always done my own homework and just wouldn't purchase anything from a seller that I didn't feel was being up front and honest but would never post links to their auctions pointing out what I thought were errors.

To each is own. I've been fortunate enough to not have come under attack yet for one of my listings, but I also have pride in what I do and sales and feedback speak for themselves.

I think this is an excellent forum for discussion, learning and education from some of the great people on this forum. In all honesty, when I see someone post a link just to put a seller down, I just ignore those forums and move on to the ones that I learn from.
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 Posted 12/16/2012  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
this gets me the most.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-CANADA...2a105&_uhb=1

it is so hard finding a MS-66 1935 at a decent price, un-certified it could be a MS-64 - Ms-66


There are 24 very good quality pictures in the listing. Hardly an act to deceive.
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 Posted 12/16/2012  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Jake,

The seller is entitled to demand what ever they feel is fair for the coin. This seller seems reputable judging by his ebay feedback.

However, I personally would only buy expensive coins based on two criteria:
1) Good seller reputation
2) Certification by a third party (ICCS, CCCS, PCGS, NGC)

I personally would not spend more than $100-$200 for uncertified coins given all the Chinese fakes out there. And estimating grade for anything between MS60 and MS70 is not something that can be done conclusively just by multiple photos. You need the coin in front of you with a 10X loop and be able to view it from multiple angles.
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12/16/2012 10:02 am
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 Posted 12/16/2012  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
too much like fun
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 Posted 12/16/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whether or not this seller wants to certify his coins or not is a decision totally up to him.

I actually like to buy coins raw myself providing one major thing which in my opinion this seller does NOT do.

That is, to provide a good picture.

Eventhough this seller supplies a multitude of pictures, I find the quality of the pictures to be very inferior.

I think it's due to the lighting source.

It appears to me the light used is a very strong incandescent light bulb that imparts an area of glare and also an area of darkness in each and every picture.

Eventhough there's many pictures and even at high magnification, I cannot ascertain the coin's grade with full confidence so I can make a purchase.

I truly believe the type of pictures supplied by the seller greatly hinders his chances of selling.

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12/16/2012 10:59 am
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I really, really like that 1875H 25-cent...

Jake, there is the list price, then there is the opening for a best offer... just like a coin show, retail prices are always subject to negotiation...

That said, ebay has recently taken a similar stand with US coins - no more selling higher end, raw key date US coins. An update to the coins listing policy applies to only U.S. coins and requires that all coins listed with a Buy It Now, reserve, or start price of $2,500 and above must be graded by companies meeting ebay's new objective standards.

I think it is only a matter of time, before such measures are applied to Canadian and world coins.
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12/16/2012 11:14 am
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 Posted 12/16/2012  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok... so aren't I entitled to an opinion without having 8 other forum members put me down?
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 Posted 12/16/2012  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cameron93,I often drool over some of your coins,often the nicest assortment of raw coins on ebay.Crack out all those NNC coins and sell them raw,they detract from your credibility.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 12/16/2012  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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I think it is only a matter of time, before such measures are applied to Canadian and world coins.


Yeah, soon after "Marketplace" listens to us about the "Canadian Coin Association".
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ok... so aren't I entitled to an opinion without having 8 other forum members put me down?


Ahhh, you were the one posting the ebay seller and links in what appeared to be a negative light. If you plan on doing so, you should have your facts straight. I believe this seller gave a very very appropriate and rather level headed response to your post. I also can't blame the other members for backing up and supporting this seller, which is what they were doing more so than putting you down. Sorry, but on a public forum you must chose your battles wisely. Chalk this one up to experience and learn from it.
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My computer has no breathalyzer.What I posted here last night was factual yet inappropriate.I apologize.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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12/24/2012 10:02 am
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 Posted 12/24/2012  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please don't say "ding the toast is done" on this one. I sure hope what I am seeing is not true.
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 Posted 12/24/2012  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have had several dealing with Cameron. either buying or selling and I can say without a doubt that I never had anything bad to say about them.. Cameron your reply was a great one....
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