This Penny Miner sorter maxes out at 350 coins per minute with adjustable speed. Ryedale claims 300/min.
Penny miner is $369.99 total price (SH is free!)
Not only faster, $130 cheaper, but also has instructional videos! I have worked in a factory, but never done machine maintenance. The videos make it look pretty simple. He also has contact info for issues and replacement part quotes (for things beyond "brake pad" type parts)
He even shows how to clean it and suggests doing that every $500 or so.
As a collector, I would still search the copper pile for wheats. He has a video showing how to double sort pre 1942 wheats, but I didn't quite understand.
Hand sorting cents I get tired of. I have a list of DD and WAM/CAM to look for in zincs, but I have never found any. I'm also not sure how excited I would be finding one. I'd probably be more excited with an Indian Head cent, though most are not particularly valuable.
I would love to cut out the zincs and just skim wheats! And after all, one should only do a hobby if they are enjoying it!
Thoughts? If I was going to get one, I would have to start by paying it off selling some rolls/bags on ebay. My local bank can roll them for me with their machine if I ever find a reason to have them rolled.
I think in order to initially start saving up for the machine, I might sell off some of the $100 face in copper cents I have, knowing it would not be hard to replace. I believe my area has a bit higher than normal copper cent saturation. Normal seems to be about 20% from what I hear on CCF, and I usually get closer to 25%, especially when I get the clear plastic bank rolls where you can see very few shinny coins.
I have talked to people who have both, all did express a preference for the Ryedale. I would encourage you to speak to Andy if you are interested in a Ryedale. He was kind enough to swap out silver for a unit. When all was said and done, my unit cost me about $30 in face value, and some good ol hard work work.
I'd love to buy a Ryedale, but I'm not about to shell out $500 when I have a couple hundred pounds of copper laying around that I can't move.
If someone can come out with a nice machine in the $300 range that can sort 200-300 a minute, I'll be all over it. Competition will drive prices down, so I hope they have at it...
$30 FV in silver? that's almost $700... did I misread? And I'm assuming andy is the ryedale maker?
Well, this one is only $70 out of that range. I don't see that being a huge difference, but it depends on the circumstance. Also, competition in sorting machines means competition in sorters! I feel that if I get one relatively soon while I'm still in this area it would be good because of all the copper here.
I'm watching to see if free shipping makes people pay more than the difference of shipping. Sometimes people bid higher beyond shipping costs when you put free shipping. Also, the items come up more in the searches. Basically advertisement + making people feel like they're getting a deal (instead of feeling taxed by shipping)
However, the shipping of copper is high, and prices have just gone up
Yeah, shipping and ebay fees eat a lot of the margin, it's just not worth the work for so little return. If I could find a local buyer at, say 1.5x face, I'd buy a ryedale in a minute and start pumping out the copper as much as they wanted lol.
I have had some good emails with andy, and you are right he makes the ryedale unit. I bought mine on ebay used and got a pretty good deal. the blue units are knock offs of his. they use the exact same hopper and run the same number of coins per minute regardless of what anyone might say. I have seen people post where they have owned both and gave up the blue ones because they only needed one. supposedly the blue one with the metal ramp has some issues with jamming.
I tracked down every part he uses except for the power board that he produces and unless someone comes up with something that uses a cheaper hopper and other parts, I don't think you will find them much cheaper than they are right now, if it was cheaper it wouldn't be worth it for them to build them. I could have built one I opted to buy the ryedale.
when I started using it I happened to be looking in the trays and I would have lost an indian head had I not. they have problems sorting the early coins. I have tried to run some teens through 30's and your just going to lose them if you don't hand sort regardless of the machine as they use the same parts. I have run some boxes/2500 pennies where the average has been as low 2% usually they run between 16 to 22% copper
I'm curious to hear from some people who have had both. I wonder what the difference is? Like you said, it's something of a knock off, but I'm not one to pay for brand names.
then disregard what I said and buy the knock off and deal with the coin jams. also you may want to wait till the end of the year and ryedale has a new machine he is working on, I don't know that he wants the info out there so I wont disclose what it will do but I will be selling mine and buying one of those when he gets it done.
sorting copper pennies has been decent for me. I average around 20% copper. Plus pull out the wheats. I get 1.58- 1.6 cents/coin and I don't use ebay. no sense paying them for my hard work. I have sold 3 different lots - minimum of 7500 coins/lot. its still a minimum wage proposition. I wouldn't do it if I wasn't already looking for the wheats, but figured I could actually pay for gas by doing coppers.
How much would you be selling yours for? About many $s have you run through it? I just dont know how bad the wear and tear is on buying used, since the process seems quite rigorous.
Ooops, I was unclear. I was asking yvairguy about his used machine. I was asking how many cents, round about were on it. Kind of like a used car, you don't want too many miles.
I run 6 to 8 boxes through the machine every week, heard or read somewhere that he has machines that have had over a million coins through the machine with maintenance and they are still working.
I should say that I will probably buy one of those and sell this one, unless it he has an upgrade package available where I can just send this one in and have him retrofit it.
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