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A customer came into my shop who knows I'm always on the hunt for coins. She couldn't wait to tell me what she saw at her bank. Apparently, a customer brought in a huge amount of rolled coins. They had a teller in a closed window going through the rolls. She asked her teller what the other teller was doing and was told she's separating the silver. I was surprised the bank manager would allow this since this is bank time, however, the bank employees may be splitting the silver rewards. In these tighter times, every dollar can count and I know the bank tellers around here (or everywhere) don't make a lot of money. As for roll hunters, that's going to hurt .
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 Posted 03/01/2013  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hasn't reached my area yet :)
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They've been doing that for the last few years, policy varies from branc to branch.
At one of my pickup banks, they allow a traveling cash-for-gold buyer to setup on occasion (inside the lobby), and advertise the fact. Of course, all the tellers are well educated on silver hunting.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
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One other side note. I have heard and have seen lots of pickers who can't keep their mouths shut. After they make a nice score they love to go back to the teller/seller/dealer and brag about how much money they will make or how much money the item you let them have was worth. Way to go 'large mouth bAss.' Blabbing is the fastest way to lose a source. These same idiots are the first to when the honey hole dries up.
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 Posted 03/01/2013  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A righteously indignant account-holder letter to the President/CEO of the bank complaining about how his worker ants are pursuing their own personal money-making
agendas while on the company clock might work wonders. The letter would (needless to say) need to be from an anonymous source, so you don't end up with every
worker ant in your bank hating your guts for the rest of all time.

I do have to admit one thing, though---in my area, it really wouldn't make any difference if the bank employees pulled silver coins out or not. I live in a state capital,
so there are way too many retired CRHers here and the silver pickings are absolutely abysmal. I'm sure the bank staff wouldn't bother doing pennies, and that's about
all that's worth doing where I live. Actually, I'd love to see them hunt silvers---because I'd like to share my frustration with them.
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Uh, why wouldn't bank tellers do this? They are likely more privy to this kind of stuff than the average person. What would the bank care as long as they do their job effectively and get reimbursed for the face amount?
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@ramicio---The reason they shouldn't be doing it is because it's not part of the job functions that they're paid to perform any more than building model airplanes
at their workstation is. If their supervisor wasn't asleep at the switch, that sort of silliness wouldn't be going on in the first place. The first time the branch manager
sees it going on, that'll probably be the end of it. And---God help the branch manager if some head office brass waltzes in and sees it going on before he puts a
stop to it himself. That turkey won't be able to sit comfortably for a month when they're done with him.

UNLESS it's actually being done by the bank itself --- in which case, every CRHer with any brains will never pick up coin from that bank ever again, but hopefully
EVERY CRHer within 100 miles will use that bank for their main dumpsite.
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Seniority at a job brings perks. I wouldn't imagine a teller of a few years would be allowed to do such a thing, but a person working for the bank for 10, 20, 30 years...seniority brings perks. If a person has invested a lot of time and sweat into a company, you get respect. As long as the person does their regular duties, I'd imagine being allowed to sort out silver from customer rolls is one such perk. I don't see any reason why the bank itself would do that. They're only going to get face value for it.
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03/01/2013 09:45 am
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You may be correct, but... A bank employee with a couple decades invested in their career would be far more concerned with safeguarding their career and
pension than they would with the unlikely probability of getting rich by snagging a few silver coins. I also suspect they would've matured by the time they got
to that point in their life/career and that they wouldn't be anywhere near dumb enough to be doing that kind of thing out in plain public view, where they would
very likely inspire customer complaints to management.

Banks are stiff, conservative and stodgy organizations that don't tolerate much game-playing by their employees. I know none of the banks I've ever dealt
with have ever tolerated employees CRH'ing while on duty (certainly not out in plain view, anyhow). I think your view of the "perks" banks allow their employees
is a bit more extensive than the perks which are actually allowed.

There are many CRHers (who post here) who'll get "heads up" phone calls from bank tellers when the tellers see silver coins turned in. If the tellers were allowed to
snag those coins, those CCF posters would never get the calls that they do get.
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This is the primary reason I got into collecting copper and cents over 10 years ago. All of the bank tellers in my area are very aware of silver. Most tellers that I know and speak to quite frequently keep it and take it down to the local coin shop for melt.

This is the norm in my area. I have 2 tellers in very small CU's that save "old pennies" for me and "weird looking" coins that I can buy for face from them, but they hang on to the silver and I usually can't buy it from them unless I pay a bit more then what the coin shops will.

Also, at the local branch (which has 5 banks in the area), if a teller has a customer that comes in with "old coins" they "usually" will try to not accept the deposit and refer the customer to coin shops for appraisals. (This info comes from a branch manager, who is a close friend of mine.) It's a major bummer.

My personal bank (very small CU) doesn't accept CWR and I use it as a dump, they have a coin machine and it's free for members. The tellers there tell me they get asked about silver or coins "a dozen or more times a day by older folks."

It's obvious that the more people that ask...tellers eventually get educated.
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Not necessarily, Freddy. I know a teller who's been at it for almost 30 years and she still checks all the CWR that come through her place. She was bragging that she must have $300 face in silver by now. I offered to buy it all for cash off her, she's very interested, needs to find her cache first.
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Wow! That's (when compared to how it goes in my area) surprising. I'm in upstate NY and the bank management attitude here is about half-way between
medieval and terminally constipated. I've never seen any teller doing any CRHing in 55+ years as a bank customer -- and with the dizzying parade of
banks that've folded, merged or been bought out over the years, that's with more banks than I can even remember.

I guess it goes different ways in different areas and (like everything else in life) is governed by the concept of "what the traffic will bear." Reading through this
thread has brought back old memories of some quotes I remember people using decades ago -- "You never know what you can get away with until you try"
and (my personal favorite) "The Eleventh Commandment is 'Don't Get Caught'."

Oh, well---it doesn't much matter in my area, anyhow. Like I hinted at up above, finding silvers in circulating coin in my area is only a little bit more likely
than winning the Powerball lottery grand prize.

That's why I hunt pennies, roll up the wheats and toss the coppers in plastic pails. Never any big payouts, but at least I'm always a winner (ha,ha).

Edit: 1-@fadetoblack---I hope your friend can find her cache. It'd be tragic if she couldn't.
2-@ksmcents---Your saying "they get asked about silver or coins a dozen or more times a day by older folks" made me laugh. When I started CRHing and
I still used to bother asking, the tellers used to give me these "oh--that poor, nice old man--he must have dementia" looks. That was before I discovered that
the silver train had left the station in my area long before I started CRHing.
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03/01/2013 1:54 pm
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"That's why I hunt pennies, roll up the wheats and toss the coppers in plastic pails. Never any big payouts, but at least I'm always a winner (ha,ha)."

Yes!

The teller said "it's just an old penny" as she lets me buy a 1904 Indian Head for face. Here's hoping they stay focused on silver and keep giving me "just old pennies". That is what makes me laugh.






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My sister, who used to be a teller, and is also very enthusiastic collector. She used to intercept any interesting coins that came her way. However, she never spent her employer's time looking through the tills.
She even had the whole of the rest of the bank staff on the lookout for her!

I would have thought that this type of situation, although not the rule, would be quite common at banks. There must be quite a few coin collectors amongst banking staff across the Country.

She even bought surrendered $200 NCLT 10 gramme gold coins at face value, but that was long before the huge price increases in the gold price. She has a large number of those. When the gold price rose significantly, no more were surrendered.
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