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9 Volt Battery & A Walking Liberty

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So I put two 9 volt batteries in my pocket today in the same pocket as my 1937 Walker pocket piece. Uh oh......my pocket starting getting real hot, so pulled everything out and one of the batteries was HOT....

Was it just the silver conducting electricity or would a State Quarter or newer .50 or .25 have conducted the same?
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silver is a very good conductor of electricity. However, I think most coins or keys would do the same to an extent.

EDIT - I think there are some coins that would not conduct
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Few materials more conductive of electricity than silver. It's only the price that keeps it from being used in commercial electrical wiring. I was once told there was a warehouse in New Jersey, built during the 40s at a brief point when wartime copper rationing made silver slightly more obtainable, which was entirely wired in silver!
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I have had batteries in my pocket in the past and never experienced the heat haha so figured it must be the silver.
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I had dumped some 9v batteries into a bag and many of them ended up shorting out on the cases of others. I reached in to get one and there was lots of heat being generated. Some of the batteries were warm. Yes, I separated them. Anyone ever have a small commercial battery achieve a catastrophic failure? I'm not talking a split I mean a bang. Is this possible?
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Sounds like a shocking experience to me!
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Lithium ion batteries (especially the earlier ones) have been known to catch fire. Not so nice if it's in your cell phone!
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Lithium ion batteries (especially the earlier ones) have been known to catch fire. Not so nice if it's in your cell phone!


Or in a Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

When we were kids we used to test 9 volt batteries by laying our tongues across both terminals. Try it sometime .......
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My mom used to do that. I think I tried it as a kid once or twice.
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I still check 9v batteries using my tongue. You can tell the difference between a good one and a bad one without breaking out a Fluke. My older brother taught me that trick around 40 years ago. He also taught me how to strip wires with my teeth. That one I try not to do anymore.
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When we were kids we used to test 9 volt batteries by laying our tongues across both terminals. Try it sometime .......


If a 9V does not do anything for you...step up to a lantern battery!
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No negative implied here at all, but wire we having a lot of trouble with this? This kind of occurrence can spark a lot of theorizing though. So I can understand a desire for enlightening.

My current thoughts on this issue are the silver coin shorted the two terminals on top of the battery, ergo... heat, metered out in elevated levels of BTUs.

As revolting as the heat in your pocket must have been, the capacity for silver and a battery to produce this situation makes sense. Although the heat might not have been enough to make you die... oh dear, it could get hot. I cannot think of anode-er reason for the occurrence that might be grounded in a workable theory.

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Of course that lady on the coin may have been trying to get out of your pocket. Making things a bit warm might have worked.
Why not try an experiment. Take a 9V battery, stand it up, place a Silver coin accross the terminals, wait a while and touch the coin. If it's hot, there is your answer. If not, real carefully look inside your pocket for wires placed there by someone. Might well be a recording system to see where you go and what you do.
If that coin gets hot,try other coins of different materials and let us all know which coins work best.
One more thing. Hopefully you don't need those batteries for a smoke detector. Might well be worn out.
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Earle .......... that was great.
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Ok, I tested a State Quarter while sitting at my desk today at work. Conducts just as good and gets just as hot.
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It isn't surprising it gets hot. Coinage metals have very low resistance values. The resistance through the metal between those battery terminals would be about 2 X10-8th or .00000002 ohms the current flow (if it could actually put out that much) would be the voltage/resistance or about 450,000 amps! The power or heat generated is the square of the current times the resistance or just over 4KW (A toaster is usually between 1 and 1.5 KW.) But the battery can't deliver that much current. It can still deliver enough though to get it good and hot.
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