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Why Are Dansco Type Albums So Cheap?

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I just found out about these albums, and they sound really fun to fill, but... why are they cardboard?

The more I read about people cracking MS-65 slabs just to put them in a little paper hole but inadvertently ruining the grade, the more I wondered why an album meant to hold all kinds of valuable classic coins would be made so cheaply. I can understand why a Lincoln Cent album would be cardboard, but something where a filled album is worth at least thousands of dollars? Why not make big multi-coin slabs or molded album pages or something to keep these things safe?

I just don't get why a holder for every valuable US coin would be made of CARDBOARD of all things. It looks like there are enough typeset fanatics to make a decent container profitable - who thought that the most worthy place for a Liberty Head Double Eagle was a hole in a piece of paper?!
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Careful, your gonna anger the Lincoln Cent collectors.
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They really arent cheap in all honesty. You want something that is sturdy and light that wont react with the coin. The cardboard is a good combination of those things. Plus the material has to be cheap enough that the album is affordable or no one would buy it.

As far as cracking out high value coins to put in the album, that I dont do.
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Dansco in my eyes is the best album money can buy I'm in the process of doing my Lincoln set and right now from 59-present all my coins are high grade from proofs to all my philly and Denver coins are from mint cello. If you want a nice set dansco is the way to go
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I have old Whitman books that were my grandfathers and my thumb goes threw them sometimes.
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I agree that the Dansco albums are decent albums. When you add the slip cover for them, they really are a reasonable place to store your coins for a decent cost. There is a brand out there called Intercept Shield, but last I looked they don't seem to be available any more. They added a lining that helps protect coins from environmental damage. They are a bit more expensive though, assuming you can even get one now.

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I had one of those cheap folders and after a few months some of my SMS and proofs started to get that I've been exposed to everything when you constantly have to slobber all over them lol. Look at this way if you use 2x2's dansco is like a big flip but easier to open when you wanna upgrade.
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And its not just cardboard its a type of paper that when you crack that high grade coin open it will be safe. Also where you see the date of the coin that's leather yeah buddy leather. I should be a sales man lol
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As has been said, you are a bit off base here. Dansco albums are an excellent way to store and protect coins. The material is better than just plain cardboard. Regardless of type of holder, placing coins in the holder is a chance for the coins to be damaged, hence the need for caution and safe handling practices. But like I said, that is separate from the kind of container.

They do make pages that will hold slabs, but you would end up with several notebooks full for just one series.
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I have always said I'd love to see an album made just like the Dansco style, but using "Kointainers"
in the holes,instead of the slides. If you have ever seen a Kointainer, you'd know what I mean. They
are ultra-thin acrylic with a slight convex so they don't touch the coin surfaces. You almost cannot
even tell they are on the coin! If they would fit into the holes of a Dansco, that would be perfect.

Otherwise though, Danscos are not as "cheap" as you make out. They are very good for the coins, with
the only 'weak' point being the slides, and only when you are moving them in and out of the album.
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There are other posts on this forum that claim no matter who makes the album, the coins in them will tone.

I cannot imagine the Dansco "cardboard" or whatever it is - seeing someone posted its not exactly cardboard - is water proof like coin-safe plastic is. So it makes sense the coins will tone.


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Plus the material has to be cheap enough that the album is affordable or no one would buy it.


I agree with this. I have also worked in plastics though. After the initial outlay of a mold to make it, I can see how someone could make plastic, transparent pages rather inexpensively.

What would be nice is if someone would make a plastic page that has molded rows of "cups" for each coin to be placed, and a plastic cover - something like an Airtight Capsule - would snap onto the top to cover the coin.

I am hoping to fabricate my own (thin) plexiglass-pages album in the future.

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Also where you see the date of the coin that's leather yeah buddy leather


Leather?

Ummm....
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I agree with this. I have also worked in plastics though. After the initial outlay of a mold to make it, I can see how someone could make plastic, transparent pages rather inexpensively.


This made me think of the capital plastic type holders which are kind of that idea. I like them but they are a bit of a pain to put a single coin in and think of an album with pages like that would have some substantial weight people may not like. I have no doubt though that someday a new material will come along that will replace the current one


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What would be nice is if someone would make a plastic page that has molded rows of "cups" for each coin to be placed, and a plastic cover - something like an Airtight Capsule - would snap onto the top to cover the coin.


Ive always wondered why Dansco hasnt tried doing two sets of their albums. One set like the current one, and then another set where the hole is big enough a coin in an airtite would fit. Maybe they did and I missed it but seems like a decent number of people would like that extra layer of protection
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An album that held airtites would be pretty thick though. I've got to think at least twice as thick as the corresponding regular Dansco.

I believe the material where the dates are printed is not real leather but fake - pleather/plastic leather.
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An album that held airtites would be pretty thick though. I've got to think at least twice as thick as the corresponding regular Dansco.

That's why I like Kointainers.
They are so thin, you can hardly tell they are on the coin.
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Agreed. For low end stuff like US/Canadian Small cents, and base metal nickels these make cents, but anything with any numismatic value or made of PM should not be outside some sort of 2/2, capsule, or slab.
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