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Enjoyable Civil War Era Coin IMO I believe PCGS hit this on the head  what say you oh fine Numismatists of the 21st century?  Try your hand and I'll see you in 24 hours or so for a reveal    Edited by dsfreeworld
05/07/2013 1:32 pm
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Oboy guess I'm the first one to guess. Well being a novice I would guess that is at least a MS-64. Looks good to me, it could very well be as high as a MS-66.
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Bedrock of the Community
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beautiful coin. my only concern is to what caused all the hairlines on the surfaces. they could be from die polishing. barring that, i'd go with MS64
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks MS with poor die fill at 10:00 reverse which is fairly common. Still a nice coin and I would guess MS63.
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United States
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I just love mint state seated material from the civil war era. I would have to say 64 is appropriate for this example, even with the light hairlines. Very attractive coin!
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Put me at 63 for the lines. Very difficult to grade the high AU-MS COINS even with good pics. In hand coins always look different.
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Proof? Rims kind of look proofish to me and nice frosting, I'll say PR64 - looks like it's close but not quite to cameo, the reverse is only half frosted.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
05/06/2013 9:10 pm
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I will go with MS-63. MS-64 is possible but the weakness in the rock and top left of the wreath may hold it back. Great coin! |
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The MS-60 grade apparently takes the numerous hairlines into account and the reverse strike weakness would not have been seen as a positive attribute. On a re-submit you might squeak out another point, maybe two. Or, you might get an MS details grade with a judgment of cleaning or altered surface. With just a $90 value difference between MS-60 and MS-63 (per the PCGS price guide) I don't think a resubmit would be worthwhile.
Nevertheless, the coin definitely has superior eye appeal for the assigned grade.
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I was grading from iPhone screen, but I still think it looks way nicer than a 60 grade, really thought it might be a proof though.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Bedrock of the Community
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It looks better than a 60, which is a grade rarely used these days.
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No excuses for me...I will stay with 64 ...have seen MS66 that didn't look as clear and sharp as that! What that shows me is that grading 20 years ago was stricter than it is now and is very subjective. As they say Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Oh yes I would at least get it re-holdered or use some slab-renew to make it clear again because you have a very nice coin.
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You my friend BH1964 are 100% correct in my opinion, I think the grading system needs a little changing, especially for toned coins, I love them but I think they should get an environmental grade if a coin is toned, also should there not be a set magnification for reviewing a coin, for cleaned or not, for anything I think should be max 5%, seems a lot of coins are coing back with details/cleaned grades
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think they missed the mark on this one but if you only picked up an additional 2 pts, its probably not worth it. place it in your collection and enjoy it.
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Posted 05/06/2013 4:04 pm
