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Fake ? 1787 1 Real Mexico

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 Posted 05/14/2013  12:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Before I chuck this in the fake pile is there any chance it may be a real real. Weight 3.27gms diameter 21mm.

Thanks for any comments.





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05/15/2013 12:36 pm
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 Posted 05/14/2013  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add minidude1111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I'm not a collector of old forign coins like this... I would suggest asking a dealer what they think
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 Posted 05/15/2013  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Insightful input...

Rooney, it seems whatever photos you linked have disappeared... can you reupload?
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Pics again



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I would say its real. Good weight.

http://www.coindatabase.com/coin_de...?cdb=L150353

Remember - the lower denominations sometimes look more crude than the higher denominations.
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05/16/2013 09:07 am
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Thanks John, it was the diameter (which seemed to large) that had me puzzled.
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 Posted 05/16/2013  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is absolutely nothing "not genuine" about it...

Riddle me this: If you have such little familiarity with this type (or really, what genuine surfaces should look like in general - this piece is the definition of "even, honest wear"), why would you be so quick to condemn this one based on one tidbit of info likely gleaned from an intro-level information source?
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Its my first and only one - came as part of job lot - I do not collect real - I had no problem with the surface - I do not have any books on real - I will now sell it with the knowledge that it is a real real - if it wasn't it would of gone with the rest of the fakety fakes which I am learning from.

Thank you for your answers.

Oh and condescending comments do not help anybody

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Nice 1 real, no problems and nice even wear. Certainly a keeper. Perhaps it will light a spark in you to become obsessed with collecting Spanish Colonial coins.
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More a point for general consumption... While there's nothing about this one that would suggest it's anything other than a normal circulated (genuine) piece, you were leaning fake based on a generalized reference to the coin's specs. That can be a bad habit for a collector, depending on how serious you want to be with it - a given reference could simply be wrong, there may be caveats, etc... could cause one to pass up something perfectly legitimate or, conversely, semi-blindly accept something that's not.

FYI, diameter tended to vary from mint to mint on all of the Colonial reales denominations... even within the same mint over periods of time.
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