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Anyone Know What Up With This Quarter

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 Posted 05/31/2013  7:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add scotttt1970 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found a 1971 quarter no mint mark today and it seems really odd. It sounds flat when thrown on the table and it rings up gold or pull tab on the detector. It also weighs more than a normal quarter and it has no edges its smooth like a nickel. I also noticed it is the exact width of a nickel. The rim is also strange its oddly shaped and over laps some of the words on both sides. I will post some pics of it any information would be much appreciated.

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 Posted 05/31/2013  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a real quarter. The details on both sides od a real quarter are raised, not incuse like the reverse of this one is...
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the details on the reverse look raised to me, the rim leads me to think it was a Dryer Coin
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Sorry to sound like a newb but what is a Dryer Coin? Thanks for the responses
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Boy do I feel stupid never mind I found out what Dryer Coin means. Would that cause the coin to gain weight though. It weighs a good 2 grams heavier than a regular quarter. Also seems to me like this would not cause it to ring totally different on a metal detector. Common since tells me being stuck in a dryer for a long period of time if anything would cause the coin to weigh less not more. I would more likely go with the quarter is not real. I have also read that their is a wrong metal error that is cause when they strike the coin with a the wrong metal, and beings that it rings up like a nickel on the metal detector and is exactly the same width this is a deff possibility.
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if the edge is smooth, it may be a Dryer Coin
Here is a recent thread with pictures and an explanation
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2 grams heavier, smooth edge, odd sound, odd appearance. I suspect a contemporary counterfeit. Does the edge show the normal "sandwich" of copper with silver outer layers?
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Damaged, yes. But I am curious as to
why it's not ringing true on the metal detector.
Any quarter that I ever found was a pretty good high
tone ring or accurate display. I know that if in all metal mode
the tones may be similar but not the display if the detector has one.
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Looks like a damaged, contemporary counterfeit.
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No normal"sandwich" of copper with silver outer layers. If it is a counterfeit I wonder why they go through the trouble of the detail but then make the weight wrong. As for the metal detector I use it on jewelry mode and all quarters dimes and pennies ring with the high tone you were talking about, well all but this quarter it rings like a nickel or gold or pull tab. I posted a picture of the edge of the coin.

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It even looks like nickel.
Especially the outer rim.
Weight of a 5 cent is 5 g's
quarter is 5.5 to 5.8
quarter is +3 m.m.'s in diameter more than a 5 cent
thickness of a nickel is 1.95 as opposed to 1.75 on a 25 cent.
Any extreme possibility of it being punched on a nickel planchet ? Devices look normal for a quarter. Would be a pretty good job of die making to look this good.
Weird, it takes me a little while to focus on the reverse
so I can see the relief. I know it is there but I keep seeing
eagle incuse :) My eyes need a checking again.
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Yeah In the scan it looks almost like the imprints are incuse, but the are not on either side they are deff raised.
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I belive some.1970 quarters were struck on dime stock metal with the proper size width. But thickness of dimes. O suppose the this could happen with nickel stock metal though I never heard of it. You would think one would have been found by now in 40+ yrs since they were minted. The lack of reeding is what concerns me. Even with off metal it should have reeds from when it was struck. Unless it a planchet metal stock error with Dryer Coin damage. The thought makes me.want to cry.
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Just to let you guys know their is reeds on the coin you can barely see them and the coin is smooth as a babies butt but you can even see the evidence of the reeds even in the photo I posted
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If it is a counterfeit I wonder why they go through the trouble of the detail but then make the weight wrong.

Because lead weighs agout 50% more than copper or nickel. make it from a lead based alloy and the same size, and it will be about two grams heavier. to get the weight right and the coin would be anly about 2/3rd the proper thickness which would also be very noticeable.

I notice you posted it on the NGC forum where it was pretty much universally condemned as a counterfeit.
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