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 Posted 06/01/2013  11:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bullion-investor13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Poll Question
Hola everyone!

Being a young adult, and loving the numismatic aspect of collecting until I pass away, I need everyone's opinions.

i plan to keep my collection for the next 50-60 years provided that something doesn't happen to it or I don't need to sell it for whatever reason, so I would like to know, what would be the best choice to work on a "type" set.

i will not be collecting low grade coins, they will all be higher graded MS-65 (possibly a bit lower for keys) but what do you think, wont take a massive hit over time or will be the most beneficial!

i have been leaning towards high grade nickel dollars, but will they still hold value in 50 years? suggestions if not included in the poll

Poll Choices
 Canadian Large Cents (1858-1920)
 Canadian Small Cents (1920-2012)
 Canadian Key Dates and Varieties Pennies Only
 Canadian 5 cent 1858-1921 (1920) ;)
 Canadian 5 cent 1922-1936
 Canadian 5 cent 1937-current
 Canadian 10 cent 1858-1936
 Canadian 10 cent 1937-current
 Canadian 25 cent 1858-1936
 Canadian 25 cent 1937-current
 Canadian 50 cent 1870-1936
 Canadian 50 cent 1937-1967
 Canadian Nickel 50 cent (1968 - current)
 Canadian Silver Dollars 1935-1967
 Canadian Nickel Dollars

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06/01/2013 11:52 pm
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 Posted 06/02/2013  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As an investment, High Grade Nickel Dollars? I don't think so.
Buy one 1926 Far nickel or one 1948 silver dollar and put that away for 50 years. Maybe you'll double, or triple your money.
A nickel dollar from 40 years ago is not worth much more than a dollar in 2013 and when you factor in inflation, has probably lost value. Fifty years from now that nickel dollar won't be worth much more than it is worth today.
On the other hand, if we are not talking investment but simply collecting; then it really does not matter. Just collect what appeals to you and you might enjoy that more than one 1948 silver dollar sitting by itself in your drawer for 50 years.
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If you are Collecting for the purpose of investing, stay away from coins and go see your financial advisor. However, if you love Collecting coins I would recommend whatever appeals to you is what's most important.
And the only advise I could give to you I.M.H. opinion is to purchase the highest graded Key dates first (if possible) in whatever series you decide upon. If you have any doubts about the years to Collect, buy only PRE-1967 coinage, they are the most cherished among Canadian Collectors and don't have the super high mintages that Post-1967 coinage is plagued with.

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I would say any high grade nickel composition coins could have potential. Ignored for years, by the time the alloy recovery program wraps up, demand for higher grade coins, especially loon dollars and two dollars, could make things interesting.

High grade nickel dollars are a good choice, low mintage, large coin, grade rarities, and the last of the voyageur series. And now, with the alloy recovery program, they are being returned to the mint. But, that is only a good choice if you have a good eye for grading. Then you can turn a $2 cherry pick into a $50 to $100 coin (MS-65 or better). My best buy was a $2 purchase, now sitting in a PCGS MS-67 holder... how could that not be a good investment...

I turned three ICCS MS-65 nickel dollars into a coin purchase at Coin Expo. Made a trade for a MS-66 1947 red cent with Newcan Coins. My cost was 3 dollars I bought at face (raw) plus $20 for ICCS certification...

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If you are Collecting for the purpose of investing, stay away from coins and go see your financial advisor./




I never buy coins solely for return on investment. Not to say I don't hope for them to go up in value for the time when they need to be sold, but I will not be counting on it.

Rather, I buy my coins smartly; trying not to over pay, and sometimes waiting until (what I think are) reasonable prices to come along, but I do not think of my collection as an investment as such.

The only way to really have the chance of positive returns would be if you analyze the market, and find undervalued items. It is not impossible, as several have done it before quite successfully, but you need to invest the time into learning about he trends. Sometimes, it may impossible to do that, as predicting the demand in 50 can be as impossible as predicting the president or prime minister at that time.
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 Posted 06/02/2013  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there may be some potential in small cents and nickels. I know personally my interest in pennies was renewed because they are no longer being produced. People tend to want what they can't have. (I saw ebay bids yesterday on a lot of "low mintage" pennies from 1990 :S.)

I personally really like nickels (1922-) so I intend to focus on higher grade low mintage years that I feel are currently undervalued.

I think no matter what you pick you will do fairly well because you will become very knowledgeable about the particular series and will be much more likely to make good decisions. However as others have said it should probably be treated as an enjoyable hobby with the added potential of making some money on the side.
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With a name like 'bullion-investor' I'm shocked you're asking us what to invest in when the best choice is staring you right in the face.

Silver at today's price of $25 an ounce is the screaming buy of the century.
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Silver at today's price of $25 an ounce is the screaming buy of the century.


That may be your opinion...
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 Posted 06/02/2013  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
collect what you like to collect, the value of any coin or collection will never exceed the value of the time you spent enjoying it.
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 Posted 06/02/2013  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed there is know option for all of the above...
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Hi everyone - thanks for your honest replies


as for the quote about my name "bullion-investor13" if I could change it I would, I kind of hit that 250 ounce of silver mark and decided that numismatics is probably the route i'd like to go, that being said, I hope silver goes about $30.00 so I don't take much of a loss off 250 ounces.

i was speaking with an old friend (some of you may know him or know OF him) he works at Colonial Acres here in Waterloo Ontario, his name is Todd, I asked him the same question and this was his response:

"if you decided to collect small cents, 1920-1967 - in 50 years, the years with many high graded coins like 1965 and 1964 wont be worth much more, but if you collect the keys or high grade low mintage coins from all denominations, than you might have better luck/

i did purchase a 1943 Far 3 PCGS MS-65 X cross graded MS-65 ICCS for $650.00 today (population is about 11) I know "trend" is about $1200.00 so I might stick with a fast variety of collection all different Canadian coins.
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The one thing going for any collector of fine quality Canadian coins is the current state of the market.

It's definitely a buyer's market with prices on quality ICCS ms65 coins at the lowest (% of trends) I've ever seen.

Be patient when buying because you will be able to negotiate a very good price I'm sure.
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My advice would be for you to buy the best grade of key dates that you can afford.

Study and learn and listen to the experts. Look for the newest key varieties that have now become a "new" and separate collectable.
Find them before the others do.

Those "in the trade" have a huge advantage at finding the new keys as they have a larger turnover when compared to a collector.

I would never consider gold or silver as a wise investment at this time. Just look back a few years, it's a bubble that can burst at any moment. Is this an important material that is used in today's world,..I don't really think so.

Check and see how much gold and silver is actually needed and used,...and then see how the vast majority of these precious metals are just being piled up in bank vaults never ever to be useful to us,..other than speculation...

There is no real reason for these metals to have such a high value.. It's not turned into jewelry or coins,...it's just piled up...

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