Multiple Questions About This 1864 Indian Head Cent

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shaban Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 11:15 pm Is this an L Ribbon? Is it an error on "UNITED"? What's going on on the sides of the reverse? Can the reverse be rotated 180*? Because this coin is Edited by shaban 09/15/2013 11:56 am Report this Post to the Staff

biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 01:02 am 1)No. The 1864-L will also have a pointed bust, you can use that diagnostic to identify the type in low grades where the L is worn away. 2)The gouge on the reverse bulged the obverse @UNITED. 3)The right side is wear, the left side is possibly a Cud or retained die break. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 04:16 am The gouge on the reverse would be by AMERICA not UNITED. The area in UNITED does look like something that would be caused by a dent on the reverse or a slight bend in the coin. I agree the left side of the reverse does look like a Cud. It is also in the same place to cause weakness in the same spot on the obv where we see weakness. And you are right about it not being the 64 L. Report this Post to the Staff
shaban Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 11:52 am Actually, the hit on the back is on UNITED, it's 180* rotated Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 11:53 am nice Cud on reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 12:25 pm Wait, are you saying this coin is in medal rotation, and not coin rotation? How often do you see that in IHC's? Report this Post to the Staff
shaban Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 12:35 pm I'm not sure what the difference is between what you're asking Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8516 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 12:50 pm Looks like a Cud with the corresponding weakness on the obverse. Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 1:57 pm Beautiful, this is listed in the 2001 'The Cud book' supplement as IC-1864-6R. See http://www.keysquality.com/download...pplement.pdf. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 2:56 pm Coin rotation (or coin turn) means if you hold a coin with the obverse right side up, the reverse behind it will be upside down. US coins are in coin rotation. In medal rotation, both the obverse and reverse will be right side up. UK coins are in medal rotation. Report this Post to the Staff
shaban Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 3:17 pm Then yes, it is medal rotation Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 6:36 pm IC-1864-6R with a medallic rotation - probably one of a kind. Report this Post to the Staff
shaban Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 8:58 pm Anyone know a possible value for this and if I should get it graded? Report this Post to the Staff
Buddy Rest in Peace United States 7075 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 9:23 pm There's no way to guess the value of a 'one of a kind' coin. So, get it slabbed so that if at any time you decide to sell it, your buyer will know it is genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 10:39 pm probably $20 - $30 in that condition. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 09/16/2013 02:17 am Missed that it was 180 degrees rotated. In that case the weakness on the obverse most likely was from the hit on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
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