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How does this happen, unless some guys were messing around at the mint? The 'PL' grade means this happened in Ottawa...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Error-...141061420918
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I spent one hour with this coin. There is no way it is a production error. My bet is that it is a "Fork lift oil pan" coin.
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there is no way its an error unless a fabricated one... Hummmmm Maybe someone should let the Mint know what goes on there ?
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great coin I would love to own something like that one day.
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Much better photos on the PCGS certificate verification site:

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/27785695/

Looks like one newer die and one older die, I think a PL-62 is a bit harsh, but the rim nick on the reverse (heh - feels funny saying that!)... affected the grade.
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It looks like it was made on purpose to me. If the hammer die and the anvil die are the same, wouldnt there be more then one out there? The more I learn the more apprehensive Iam about buying any errors from unknown (by me) sellers, but thats just me.
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That coin went to ICCS originally and they sent the owner packing so to speak.
Someone else didn't want to certify it for obvious reasons so off it went to PCGS.
I want it but not going to crack open the piggy bank for anything near the asking price.

Thanks for posting it SPP.
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09/18/2013 2:08 pm
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I was under the impression that it was generally impossible to accidentally fit two obverse or two reverse dies in the presses. I would assume that would apply to the PL presses too.

So, it would require deliberate action on someone's part at the mint. And hence is yet another back-door job.

I'm amazed at the patience of the perps. Obviously you can't "looky here" too soon after something is produced, or it is obviously suspicious. It has to lay low for years and then appear to be discovered.


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I am guessing their press is different than the US presses because this type of error isn't possible here as far as I have heard. One side is square and the other is round (or some other shape) so this type of "mistake" doesn't happen. The only way you find a US coin this way is if its a Magicians coin or some other manufactured type of "error" (for lack of a better word)
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So, this is a newly discovered mule? Extremely cool, IMO, even if it isn't a genuine "error".
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I am guessing their press is different than the US presses because this type of error isn't possible here as far as I have heard. One side is square and the other is round (or some other shape) so this type of "mistake" doesn't happen. The only way you find a US coin this way is if its a Magicians coin or some other manufactured type of "error" (for lack of a better word)


In fact, I remember reading an article, and the dies for the obverse and reverse proof Presidential dollars were completely different. They didn't look like traditional dies at all. The technology that the mint uses these days is just amazing.
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@ Bryan1315...I believe it works very similar here however never under estimate what someone can do with a bit of spare time behind closed doors.
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Can someone tell me if any Canadian Coin has been certified MS 65 or Higher on both the reverse's and or Obverse's of any such coin like the one of this topic?. (That sounds weird however I guess the terminology fits!)
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I feel this coin should be confiscated and destroyed unless someone can prove it happened as a legitimate error.
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@ nickelsguy..Can you elaborate on what 'Fork lift oil pan coin' means...

Thanks..
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a little birdy told me that............if a mint employee (in the search area) was to place coins in the hydraulic oil reservoir, the maint. area was NOT in the search area........
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