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How would you guys grade this one hard to get the shine to show but there is shine!

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 Posted 10/04/2013  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. MS-64
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 Posted 10/04/2013  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin.

Dependent upon the colour, betwixt 63-65.

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 Posted 10/04/2013  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin! MS64
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 10/04/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very very nice!
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 Posted 10/04/2013  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64 or 65.
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 Posted 10/04/2013  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is definitely Unc but I'm seeing wipe marks or faint hairlines.

PCGS may just grade this as 'Unc details' due to cleaning or hairlines.

Maybe (but I doubt it) ICCS would grade this MS (always worth a try though).
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 Posted 10/04/2013  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
High MS!!
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Very nice..

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shes a beauty for sure , but I'm almost 100% it was cleaned...Also take a good look above the C in Canada...It appears to have some old corrosion or residue looking stuff that someone tried to remove... MS? dont think it will get there AU 58 is very very Likely.

all that said I will trade you mine for yours
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I think it looks uncirculated but some very faint hairlines on the obverse leaves the impression that it may have been wiped. Beautiful coin regardless.
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As mentioned, if those hairlines are on the coin, that's a concern for the grade, but it looks MS64 or 65 if they aren't a factor (on the coin)... and depending on the intact lustre too.
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 Posted 10/05/2013  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That 5 cent piece is near perfect and with a ton of detail in the hair braids around her ear.

Yes there are a few very fine hairlines on it but at the same time there are no contact marks which you would normally expect.



Definitely MS64 or 65 IMHO. I just wish that it had some toning..as you would expect..
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 Posted 10/05/2013  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The more I look at it I'm sure it wont go MS.. There is a scratch above the CEN in Cents and also some black raised black spots which is consistent with corrosion or foreign matter... Add the hairlines on both Obv & rev and not surprised if it comes back as whizzed.... If so a very well done job.. To bad it had not retoned she would be a great coin
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 Posted 10/05/2013  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said before, I don't think you stand a chance of getting that coin in a PCGS holder. Currently they are on a 'witch hunt' for hairlined coins and they are grading all slightly hairlined coins as 'details'.

Possibly, ICCS will ignore these and then your coin will grade ms64 or ms65, but you may also get an au58 from ICCS.

Something very similar to what happened with glenzy1's coin that he posted a day or two ago.

I am surprised at the number of posters here that have neglected to take note of these hairlines.

If you're one of them and you're buying raw Unc coins, I would suggest you pay a little more attention to these hairlines as it'll wind up biting you in the pocketbook.
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 Posted 10/05/2013  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well said double...
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