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Hi last week my dad found a 1944 Mercury dime in his toolbox and gave it to me. Apparently some grease or motor oil got to it. Its a common date in circulated condition and I don't plan on selling it obviously. How would I clean it as long as it doesn't make it look weird, even if it "technically" ruins the value. I don't want my first and only merc to be brown, but I don't want it to look artificial either. I have heard of something called acetone, could you explain that too? Thanks.
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 Posted 10/19/2013  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would consider acetone to be the first angle of attack here. Get the pure kind, not nail polish remover.
Let it soak in a well ventilated place for a day or so and see what happens. Cover the container with a piece of glass to prevent evaporation.

Acetone isn't considered cleaning in the numismatic world.

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What would be wrong with nail polish remover? And where would you buy pure acetone anyway?
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Nail polish remover most likely contains other stuff than just acetone.

any hardware store should have pure acetone
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The nail polish remover says harmful to wood finish, synthetic fabrics, and plastics. It doesn't say anything about metals. The ingredients are (in order):
Acetone
Water
Gelatin
Lanolin oil
Cocamidopropyl dimethylamine propionate
Amp isotearic hydrolyzed soy protein
Cetyl acetate
Acetylated lanolin alcohol
Polysorbate 80
Fragrance
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Cocamine
Denatonium benzoate
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Do you know anything about these Chemicals and their reactivity to silver? Or should I just buy the acetone?
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No I do not know how those chmicals react with silver, but why take a chance?

Do a search on this forum and you will get 100s of threads where EVERYONE states that nail polish remover is a big no-no.

There are about 13 reasons not to use nail polish remover, and those are:


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Water
Gelatin
Lanolin oil
Cocamidopropyl dimethylamine propionate
Amp isotearic hydrolyzed soy protein
Cetyl acetate
Acetylated lanolin alcohol
Polysorbate 80
Fragrance
Peg-15
Cocamine
Denatonium benzoate
Yellow 11
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If you don't wanna ruin the coin, don't half-you-know-what it.
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Soap and water? Anyone?
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Personally, I'd not bother with cleaning this coin. From a numismatic standpoint, its value doesn't warrant conservation. It would be a good coin to experiment on and learn about cleaning and conservation though, if that is your goal.

I have an ugly, lead counterfeit of a 1918 Walking Liberty half that my Dad found and gave me back in the 1950's. Like the 1944 dime, it's not worth much from a numismatic standpoint. Its value to me is simply that it was a gift from Dad, a memory. That's why I still have it after sixty or so years. Enjoy the hobby and the memories, son ...
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Any other things to experiment with? Again I don't care about the value... Ketchup, vinegar, soap, anything?
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@ ExoGuy

Yes, that is my goal, to experiment. I am trying the nail polish remover. Grease is starting to dissolve into the solution and not seeing any damage to the coin. Will check on it often and will keep this thread updated...
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Okay -- since you've already stuck the coin in a bunch of chemicals, I would recommend getting those other chemicals off as soon as possible. So maybe a rinse in distilled water would get some of the lanolin and other stuff off the coin. Distilled water is better than tap water because it won't be acidic. Acids, of any kind, will eat away at the coin. Distilled water is only about a dollar for a gallon so it's worth getting.

The thing about the other chemicals is that you may not see the damage done to the coin for some time.

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Honestly, if it's just grease, it should come off fine using your nail. Don't push hard, just lightly push down on the coin and pull your finger across the surface. and it should come off none the worse for the wear.
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I find it amusing that tap water, something that is vital to humans for survival, is dangerous to hard metal. Bad for coins, very good in tummys.
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Quote:
very good in tummys.



Not always....depends a lot on geographic location, history of land use and source....
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Mercury-Dime-Help!

Success! I will use distilled water like you said.
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