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Anyone ever hear of this before?

I assume it was some sort of marketing gimmick by some bank or other mail order company.

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Early first release ?
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It reeks of some marketing gimmick to me
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I believe there were rolls earmarked for the state the coin was minted for for first issue ceremonies, but the "brilliant never circulated" part makes me believe these aren't them
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Pretty cool!

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I wondered how long it would take for these to show up! I printed them months ago!

They sell really well too! I get about 10X the price for each roll.

Just kidding!

I've never seen anything like these. Sounds kind of fishy to me too.

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Newspaper ad coins from World Reserve Monetary Exchange, home of the infamous "ballistic" Presidential dollar rolls...
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I've seen these for Alaska too. Don't know where they come from though. and @Yokazuna, where are we supposed to send the .50 cents?
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Newspaper ad coins from World Reserve Monetary Exchange, home of the infamous "ballistic" Presidential dollar rolls.

That's what I'm thinking. They did a lot of those newspaper adds claiming to have rolls of State Quarters at a "special deal" only for the people of Indiana (Texas, Ohio, Illinois......) I could very easily see them sending them out in wrappers like this to try and fool, uh convince the victims, uh customers that they got something special.
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@Yokazuna, where are we supposed to send the .50 cents?


Please use a series 3 or higher transport beam with the latest software updates installed. Set the coordinates on the equatorial coordinate system to: RA 17h45m40.04s, Dec -29° 00' 28.1" (J2000 epoch) at N39.50'54.24"/W74.10'14.88" You can send it anytime in the last week or so.

NOTE: The Super-Earth that's 40 light years away called GJ 1214b has been causing problems with Windows 7 teleportation programs, so if you have a copy of Windows 8, use the new teleportation software package included with the system. I'll go back to the day before yesterday an pick up the payment.

Thanks for being honest about being off world. Most hyper readers just use a loop-back to hide that they were "away" when they read my post.
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@ Yokozuna, sorry I'm still using windows 95. My teleportation software is extremely out of date. If I send .50 it may show up on your end as clam shells. Do not be surprised, they are very valuable clam shells. Enjoy! Sorry for misspelling your name the first time, this windows 95 is really pixelated.
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They're not even full rolls - 2 rolls of 25 for $50 or $1 per quarter.

That's quite a premium.
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I found this article

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/co...chump-change

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May 2, 2008, 7:54 a.m. EDT

Stupid Investment of the Week
Commentary: 'Special' State Quarters add up to chump change

By Chuck Jaffe, MarketWatch
This update of a column originally published May 1 corrects a mathematical error regarding the cost of New York State Quarters.


BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- On a recent trip to help my ailing in-laws in upstate New York, I came across a full-page ad in the Finger Lakes Times saying that "the last restricted rolls" of Empire State Quarters would be sold in the next 48 hours. The ad was built to look and read like a newspaper story, and I tore it out of the newspaper, figuring it might be fodder for Stupid Investment of the Week.

When I returned home, my wife discussed the ad one morning over breakfast, before I moved it from the kitchen table to my office.

A short time later, my wife traveled to her parents' home, and was asked by her dad to remove some valuables, basically a drawer with some old piggy banks and tins filled with a lifetime of pocket change presumed to be "worth something." When she brought it home, there were years of interesting coins to look at, plus nine little blue velvet bags.

Inside those bags were the very same kinds of rolls of uncirculated New York State Quarters, which judging from some accompanying paperwork had been purchased in a similar offer seven years ago. Each order was exactly as described in the Finger Lakes Times ad, including a specially wrapped roll of 25 coins -- the wrapper saying that they were restricted to New York residents only -- plus the "free quarter" encased in plastic.

My wife Susan (the most patient and understanding woman in America) said: "I'm betting this isn't the smartest investment my parents ever made."

In fact, it's one of the dumbest ones, because these "special" State Quarter offers -- and they appear in many papers around the country, each with a local twist or angle -- are a Stupid Investment of the Week.

Stupid Investment of the Week showcases the concerns and conditions that make an investment less than ideal for the average consumer, and is written in the hope that showcasing the faults in one situation will make them easier to recognize elsewhere. While obviously not a buy recommendation, the column is not meant to be an automatic sell signal; if someone bought modern state coins for the fun and hobby of collecting them, keeping them for the joy they bring is a fine idea.

As an investment, however, chances are good that the investor's best chance of making money on these State Quarters is to cash them in and invest the proceeds.

Giving no quarter
To its credit, World Reserve Monetary Exchange's ad -- actually described as a "Universal Media Syndicate Special Advertisement Feature" -- does not focus on the investment value of the coins. Instead it discusses how the Lady Liberty quarter will not be minted again, and how proud New Yorkers may want to set aside some of these tokens as the firm "is offering up the last of its private horde ... to New York state residents only."

There is a small part of the ad, however, headlined "Value for State Quarters soar," and which discusses how the Tennessee quarter "has already increased in value an astonishing 1,100%." Ohio and Louisiana quarters are also up more than 300% in value, according to the accompanying chart.

It sounds great, but the World Reserve Monetary Exchange representatives I spoke to on the phone couldn't tell me who was paying that much, and said only that the value of the quarters "might" go up. (They never said the more likely outcome, which is that they "might not.") I asked the phone reps to put me in touch with executives of the firm, but no one ever returned my calls.

In talking with coin dealers, and looking at value tables, the best price I found for those Tennessee quarters was 75 cents, a far cry from the 1100% gain, which would make the quarter worth about three bucks. The best value on New York quarters, minted in 2001, was 28 cents each.

And those are prices that dealers sell coins for, not the price you are likely to get taking your quarters to the open market.

Moreover, the entire idea of buying new quarters for monetary gain defies logic, even by the sometimes illogical standards of collectibles. The State Quarters were minted in huge quantities; the New York wrapper is just something the World Reserve slapped on them, not some unique, valuable designation. In fact, some collectors pay more for "original bank-rolled coins," and might look askance at the World Reserve's rolls of 25 quarters (rather than the standard 40).

Hole in your pocket
"It's not collecting, it's speculation," says Jon Hanson, a rare coin dealer in Wellesley, Mass. "You are buying something because you've been told it has the possibility to be worth something, but millions [of the coins] have been made and they're easy to come by. ... Things like these coins become worth something because of the hype, and that hype doesn't last forever. When the hype dies and the focus shifts, there's no demand, and you're left having paid too much."

Hanson cites the example of the 1950-D nickel, which became the hot coin of his youth, and which at one point got to where people were paying more than $50 a coin to get them. Today, the value of those nickels, in good condition, is less than $3.50.

Indeed, what makes the special quarter offers so bad is the pricing. You get 25 quarters -- face value of $6.25 -- plus the "free" one in its individual case for $21.10. Because I called in after the 48-hour period, operators told me I'd have to pay an extra two bucks. (So much for the horde of coins selling out in that hyped big weekend in late March.)

That price includes the shipping and handling charges, but it basically means that buyers are spending 88 cents for every 25-cent coin they purchase. Even at the best price currently listed by coin dealers for those Tennessee quarters -- much more scarce than the Lady Liberties and few quarters in any roll actually qualify for those best prices -- they're still below break-even. And since the deal was on New York quarters -- now fetching 28 cents in the best condition -- investors start out deeply underwater.

Several numismatists noted that someone looking for uncirculated coins can frequently get them at their local bank, especially if they have a relationship with the manager and ask to be contacted when new coins arrive. Then they can get the uncirculated coins at face value.

In short, the best way to get an investment return from the "special" coins advertised in the newspaper ads is to unwrap them, convert them into cash and invest them. On their own, these "special" quarters have little more than sentimental value, and the chances that they recoup the price paid for them or keep pace with inflation are nil.
Chuck Jaffe is a senior MarketWatch columnist. His work appears in dozens of U.S. newspapers.


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I checked ebay and found 12 sales for these "Restricted" State Quarters.

231086575355

I picked this one at random because it has all of the "Items" mentioned.

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