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Grading Mint Set?

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Is a mint set graded on each coin or as a whole?

Example: In using the Red Book, the values of half dollars are listed as MS-63 Choice Uncirculated, MS-65 Gem Uncirculated and PF-65 Gem Proof. So a mint set's half dollar could be any of these grades?

Why is there such a HUGE difference in a 1961 Franklin MS63 $12.00 and MS65 $120.00 and PF65 $32.00? I figured proofs were worth more than MS65. Can someone help explain?

It seems to make a big difference on grade vs. price. It's confusing to say the least.
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Can you give me your opinion on this half?

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LeAnn...I can't speak to the coins you specifically mentioned, but can point out that it really is supply and demand. Proof collectors are a specialized breed, while business strike collectors are the bulk of the numismatic community, I would guess. At least in 19th century series, many collectors want either all proofs, or all business strikes...but not a mixture. Because a much higher percentage of proofs survive relative to business strikes in uncirulated conditiion, esp. high unc (65, say) condition one sometimes finds that the proofs sell for less than unc's in those older series. It may be true for any series...it all depends on supply and demand.
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Mint sets as a whole are generally not graded since you can have a wide variation of grades between the coins. Some people will cherrypick mint sets and break up the set selling off the low grade coins and keeping the high ones.

In most cases, high grade MS coins will be worth more than a proof. MS65 Franklins(especially those with FBLs) are not common but high grade proofs are relatively easy to find since they were made specifically for collectors and enclosed in special packaging to protect them thus giving them a high survival rate. Most proof Franklins will be PR65+ whereas most uncirculated Franklins will be in the MS60-63 range- it is all about conditional rarity.

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Example: In using the Red Book, the values of half dollars are listed as MS-63 Choice Uncirculated, MS-65 Gem Uncirculated and PF-65 Gem Proof. So a mint set's half dollar could be any of these grades?


If the half dollar came from a mint set, it could not possibly be proof since proof is a type of minting, not a condition. Until recently, coins in mint sets were no different than the coins placed into general circulation. Proof coins are minted from specially prepared dies and planchets and are generally double of triple struck to produce a high level of detail.
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fbl full bell lines. Does that mean the lines go across the bell and are clearly visible? Is that lines at the bottom or top?
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Two bell lines low and three lines above them. The lines must be fully separated and cannot be broken i.e. a ding from another coin.
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