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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I hate seeing all these listings of "mixed wheat and Indian Head" rolls with "this or that" ... even dimes, showing on the ends.
My Grandfather used to "roll his own", and he knew the difference between pennies and dimes, so I guess that makes him a genius.
I also like how the rolls are "unsearched" ... sometimes with an Indian head on each end...yet they seem to know that they're "mixed Wheat and Indian Heads" ... almost like they can see through the wrappers.
I don't care what they stick on the ends of a roll of pennies. I don't want anymore wheat cents. I need an 09 S VDB, a 14-D and a 31-S. They won't be found in bogus "unsearched" rolls bought from these cons.
What kind of fool does it take to think that a dealer hasn't scoured the coins contained within? If I do get old rolls of coins ... they're spilled out ASAP ... and sometimes that means in the car before they even get to my home.
Chance
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree - your grandpa was a genius. And all those buyers especially on ebay just love the excitement of 'unsearched rolls'. Duh... 
Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith
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To each their own I suppose ... the uneducated buyers on ebay support an industry. David
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Pillar of the Community
United States
688 Posts |
I don't understand how even novices can fall for this. When I started looking at buying coins on ebay it took me about 2 seconds to realize all those unsearched rolls with special coins (Indian Heads, Key Wheaties or Seated dimes) on the end have to be a setup. Basic common sense says these aren't unsearched.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let's think about this from a different perspective...which is more likely
.....to find a 1909s VDB in a random truly unsearched wheat roll or .....to find a 1909s VDB in a composed "unsesrched roll" where the seller might toss one in to get positive testimonial to sell more rolls
I would bet the second option is more likely to turn up a random key date.
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Pillar of the Community
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When I was a kid ... only bank wrapped rolls had open ends. I'll guarantee you my grandpa didn't roll that one up. There was a pretty measurable and appreciable difference between a quarter eagle and a penny.
Chance
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Pillar of the Community
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I bought a couple back when I was in college, when I was still under the impression that people were generally honest... I figured it out pretty quick when all of the best coins happened to be on the end- I honestly don't know how people continue to fall for that
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ya I love those quarter gold eagle unsearched rolls they have up there. I once saw someone list a roll that had both ends showing quarter eagles lol
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Pillar of the Community
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I'll just buy the key date. I just don't want anymore wheat cents. I sold a whole chest full of them to a friend just to be rid of them once and for all. You want to have some fun ... find the clowns selling old still banks with old coins inside ... do an advanced search to see where they bought the empty bank right off ebay 2 to 4 weeks prior ... then go back to their listing and read their flowery lies. Chance
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Wow! You're sure... he never dropped an ancient coin into one of those rolls by mistake? He never accidentally grabbed a foreign silver coin and put one in both ends out of sheer absent-mindedness? Did he have some kind of secret?! I have lost over a dozen of my best coins by putting them in the ends of coin rolls because I wasn't paying attention! When that happens, my strong moral code prevents me from re-opening my own roll of coins, so I usually just put it on ebay and hope for the best.
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh my, that description make my eyes bleed!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I don't understand how even novices can fall for this. As long as you dont bid more than you think the ends are worth theres nothing wrong with buying them. But yea a simple selling history shows those sellers have usually sold 100s of rolls with "special" end coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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The paper is thin and fragile from being "fuzzed" in a tumbler. The wrappers aren't even vintage wrappers.
Chance
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Wow... how does he know there are TWO Civil War tokens in that roll? He must be one of those experts who can attribute a coin, even through paper. Quote: Please keep in mind that ALL of the wrapper ends look kind of "ratty". This is due to the very thin paper that was used back in that era Yes, we are still feeling the after-effects of the "Great Paper Shortage of 2011". Quote:There have been MULTIPLE key-date, semi-key date, BU's, and valuable error coins (both Wheats and Indian Heads) found over the last year. I was updating with recent finds, but it was causing my description to be too long and drawn out. Everything from 1916-D Mercury dimes, to 1922 No 'D' Wheats and a slew of other KEY DATES like a 1914-D have been found. Key date and semi-key date Indians are being found quite frequently as well!! I believe only one 1909-S VDB has been found thus far (reported, anyway), but you never know where the next one will turn up! OK... here's where I do a bit of math and you find out that this guy is so full of crap that he can't go outside on hot days. The total mintage of all Mercury dimes is 2,677,232,488; the total mintage of 1916-D Mercury dimes is 264,000. Therefore, in a completely random pile of Mercury dimes that has never been picked through, just one in 10,141 will be the elusive 1916-D. The odds are highly against these unsearched penny rolls (which should not contain silver dimes in the first place) containing a single 1916-D Mercury dime - and yet, good fortune struck again, with a 1909-S VDB cent being found, and numerous other key dates too! Uncanny!! Quote: UPDATE: A repeat buyer recently found a GOLD DOLLAR INSIDE A ROLL recently along with more key date coins!!
2 MORE GOLD DOLLARS FOUND!! (Aug. 8th & 10th Feedback!)
MEXICAN GOLD PESO COINS ARE BEING FOUND AS WELL!! Yes, because if I was sitting on a pile of gold-bearing antique penny rolls, knowing that any one of them could (and had a proven record of) turn up a key date, I would do the honourable thing and sell them unsearched on ebay.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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If I really bought a roll of "50 pennies" and the end coin was a 2 1/2 dollar gold piece, I would search it, not just sell it. What if it was TEN 2 1/2 dollar gold coins, 1 Civil War token on the other end and the rest of the coins were all keys, one or two 1909-S VDBs with a 1955 DDO in the middle, just by chance? I don't know about you, but if it is real, I'd have that roll open as quick as I could. The thing that get's me is that he gets almost 100% positive feedback. Are the buyers so happy that they get one coin worth a few bucks that they feel like they hit the jackpot? Where did the seller find all of these rolls? If he knows nothing about the rolls, how can he claim they are unsearched or even that they have wheat cents in them? If he's selling these coins to make money on ebay, you have to think that he's doing something wrong, because so many rolls are worth 2 or 3 times what buyers are paying, until you read all of the listing. Maybe he's telling the truth. Each roll has never been looked at by anyone from the day it was rolled, but I think this part of his listing that says a lot. **Please keep this in mind when bidding: If you buy a roll, find a rare coin, and triple (or more) the amount you paid for the roll, I don't expect you to send me more money - that would be ridiculous, right? So, if you don't find a rare coin (which is more likely since the definition of RARE is...well, you get the point, right?), and the cost of the roll turns out to be more than the worth of the coins, please don't expect me to refund part of your purchase price to make up for the difference - that's just as ridiculous! - YES! Believe it or not, I have received requests like this!It's a great way to sell rolls and he may be totally honest. I can't say one way or the other because I wasn't there when these coins were rolled, bought or posted on ebay. I'm a roll searcher. I buy rolls to find error and variety coins. The rolls listed that even though you see gold and silver and his buyers tell him all the time that they find key dates, I will not be bidding on these unsearched rolls with coins on each end that are winners. I'll be the buyer that gets the rolls that's worth far less than what I paid and the coins on each end will be the only coins worth much. It's just my luck. Ben
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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