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1896 Amazingly Toned Morgan (Must See Before You Die)

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Just bought this the other day. My first toned morgan and its a stunner IMO. Take a guess at the grade. I will post the grade and price paid in a couple of days, also my selling price too. lol Tell me what you think about it.

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To me, the toning doesn't look natural.

You don't have enough yet to sell the coin here, so I would refrain from posting a selling price.
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As I was, thanks for correcting me. Won't be selling it on here. It's already been graded by PCGS so the point is moot on rather natural or not.
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PCGS and NGC have been known to put AT Morgans in their holders.
The toning looks too blotchy to be natural again, just my opinion.
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Not my cup of tea, but if you're happy that's all that matters.
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Toning looks kinda funky to me, too. But if you like it that's all that matters.
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. Won't be selling it on here. It's already been graded by PCGS so the point is moot on rather natural or not.


What was the PCGS grade?
I am thinking . Genuine - UNC Details (94 - Altered Surf.)
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WELL, I was thinking it wasn't because it is graded and has a CAC sticker. So that must mean something? And not a single person has guessed the grade. lol I personally cant see somebody taking the gamble to tone this.
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Coin is definitely artificially toned but amazing nonetheless!
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Coin is definitely artificially toned but amazing nonetheless!


No. It's not artificial.
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^ good enough for me :)
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I agree and think that the toning is natural. It is exquisite toning for sure!
Since nobody has actually tried to guess the grade, I will say MS 65 CAC, could be clear enough to be 66 though.

Superb Morgan!
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No. It's not artificial.

I bow to you judgment on this but to me it is totally weird that the reverse is super toned up and the obverse is just normal.
All the "Toned" coins I have come across are toned on both sides, including the rim.

can you explain your reasoning as to why this isn't AT?
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I call these "taco bell napkin toning", where it sat on
some acidic paper for a while. Technically they will be
call NT, as compared to baked or fried AT, and often bring
huge price premiums.. It's just a matter of preference,
I prefer the old school album rim toning myself. It gets
controversial when you see recent silver eagles ( ASE) that
look like this graded by the top tier TPG's, as in how is
this possible?

Not trying to reflect anything on the OP question which looks MS65-ish
on the obverse but it's hard to grade a toned side like this from a pic.

JMHO
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I've seen some Morgans toned like this, fire opal looking, real to me as well, possibly from contact with a velvet or similar cloth over years and years.This would bring one heck of a premium in a large auction I'd bet.

Grade? MS67 maybe a MS66+ Looks like a monster toner!
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MS66*.

Edited to add: I'm not a fond of such threads titles, no matter which coin it is.
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