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Anybody Ever Buy From Peacockcoins?

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The seller has really great feedback, and seems to sell all wild toning coins. Not usually much of a toning guy, but a couple of these catch my eye. If anyone has bought from him, has the toning looked as good as in the pictures?

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If every single coin he has is beautifully toned then I gotta say he's speeding up the process using chemicals or other methods. I have seen his stuff before. Don't get me wrong...I'd love to have a nice pretty yellow dime in my collection

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Well, a good portion of the coins are certified by the top TPG's. But, how good are they at spotting artificial toning?



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Thundercoin,
I would say that PCGS et al. are good enough at detecting AT that if Peacock were selling ATed coins, they wouldnt be residing in those slabs (maybe SGS, UNC, or the other greasy basement slabbers).


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GBS? Is that yet another one?
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I would say that PCGS et al. are good enough at detecting AT that if Peacock were selling ATed coins, they wouldnt be residing in those slabs (maybe SGS, UNC, or the other greasy basement slabbers).



Meaning no disrespect, I would disagree. It's not difficult to get an AT'd coin into a PCGS slab. For example (the PCI slab came first):

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That coin is from the seller being discussed here. He is known to me as a knowledgeable collector and frequent poster at both the PCGS and NGC forums. He is, also, in my opinion and that of others, artificially toning coins. There are yet others who disagree with that opinion.
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Egads SuperDave Do you think he might have an "In" at PCGS or are they just that lax? That ASE looks like it had rectangles of chemical-soaked paper placed on it with all of those straight lines of toning

We do have a member big into toned coins, Hadleydog. I wonder what his opinion is on this seller and his coins. I just shot him an email so maybe he will have some input.

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I will probably just stay away. Especially since the coin I was looking at, a 1938-D anacs buffalo in MS-63, will probably go for MS-65+ money. Those are some interesting coins that he has though, and some of them are very beautiful. I guess maybe I'll stick with my 'blast whites'.
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Good call SuperDave, I was going to cite the same source coin you posted. Pat "Braddick" Cummins' coins are all AT...he has been known to tone the coins as they reside in the TPG holder. He also submits 1,000s of coins per submission in order to "slip" these ATs through unnoticed (if you can believe that one could not notice these obvious AT colors).
Here is an educational site by a knowlegable chemist/collector. You find that you can spot AT coins by learning the tell tale signs and indicator colors of certain metals and their composition.

http://www.ivyleaguecoin.com/scienceoftoning.html

EDIT: I have made one purchase from him (a non toner bust) and IMO the picutures are juiced.
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I've put that link into my coin folder, along with all the other information links people keep posting. Ya gotta love a forum where people freely exchange knowledge & education. I still consider myself a beginner, but by coming here I'm now a beginner with tools.
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This is counterintuitive, but I highly recommend it. Take some junk silver/copper (preferably coins that have already been cleaned), a pair of protective gloves (protective eye advised)or tongs and open up your own lab. Experiment with different house hold chemicals or place coins in various fruits and vegetables (all have a varied natural pH) and place fruit w/ coin in the oven (use common sense...when working with flammables). Make your own artificially toned coins/patterns and use them as a reference on what NOT to buy.

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