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1918-S Standing Liberty Quarter (1918/17 S ?)

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 Posted 05/19/2014  10:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add johnsl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Unfortunately I only have this image to work from - until the piece arrives by post (when I'll upload a better one).

Does anybody know their way around a 1918/17S quarter well enough to say if I called this one correctly?

There is a dark spot in the lower portion of the 8 which makes it hard to tell - but the secondary characteristics; the die clash beside Liberty's knee and the small raised spot just to the right of the top of the 8 are there - but there is also a more obvious raised spot near to the edge to the right of the 8 which I haven't seen on images of other examples.

I was online to the auction for a couple of other pieces and was expecting this one to get some serious interest, but when it was about to be knocked down for the opening price (based on an 1918 piece) I couldn't resist it so I bought it.

Any opinions?



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Edited by johnsl
05/19/2014 7:24 pm
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 Posted 05/19/2014  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cardman06 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on this image I dont see it, but I am not an expert. I will wait for the others to see what they think..either way a very nice pick up..
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It's fun to roll the dice. Good luck !
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 Posted 05/19/2014  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can we get a close up on the date?
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 Posted 05/19/2014  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a fine details one just like it. Neither mine nor yours seem to have the raised pimple above and to the right of the date, under the gown. I sent mine to ANACS for attribution and it was a no go. Good luck with yours. nlp
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 Posted 05/19/2014  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see a 8/7-s but better pics may clear that up. Repost when you get it in hand.
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 Posted 05/19/2014  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see the "diagnostic chip" "...above the line over the date just to the left of the lowest star on the right"
http://books.google.com/books?id=Nn...kers&f=false

Also...

https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-variet...7-s-25c-2194

Nice looking Type II SLQ!
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05/19/2014 4:15 pm
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I probably haven't got this one right.

Mostly becasue after looking at a lot of 1918/17S images I realise that there isn't anywhere for the 'dirt' to lodge in the lower loop of the 8/7 - so the dark spot inside the loop pretty much has to be becasue there is an open loop there.

The coin was listed as a 1918 aUNC (in a small European auction) - where I was following the lots online waiting for a couple of Hibernia coppers to come up.

I had browsed the rest of the lots when I initially viewed online - and this one caught my interest because the S was not in the description - the other US pieces did all have the mintmarks identified in their descriptions. Even on the thumbnail I could see that there was something in the mintmark spot - so I clicked on the thumbnail for a better look and then I saw the bright spot inside bottom of the lower loop of the 8 and wondered if it could be an 18/17S with the dark spot obscuring the rest of the lower part of the 7.

The die clash is fairly clear even on this fairly poor image - I hadn't fully understood where the die chip was - so I was probably looking in the wrong place for the second diagnostic. But it is also absent (or at least very hard to see) on quite a few of the better grade 18/17S that I was able to find online.

Anyway I pretty much put it aside on the basis that without viewing in person I'd never be able to be sure - and it would have taken a few hundred euros (flights, car rental, overnight room etc) to get there which is a lot to invest in a 1918S slq.

But when the lot opened at 50 Euros and nobody seemed to be interested in it I decided that even plain 18S was an OK buy at that price - I had pretty much expected that if it was an 18/17 that it would open so high that I wouldn't get a look in. So after a few bids I won it - I could hear the auction room audio so I knew the other bidder was also online and there were no floor bids (European Auction houses give book and room bids priority over online - so my online bid didn't get picked up until after the auctioneer had opened the lot to the room and got no response - so it was only when I sent in a bid that the online interface showed another online bidder was also active). It'll still end up costing a bit over 100 Euros after fees taxes and postage. Which is OK but not a bargain for an 18S - but it's cheap enough that it's not costing me much to have a closer look at it.

P.S. I didn't get the Hibernias - under bidder on both - they were nice but not special, so easy enough to walk away.

I'll post a proper blow up of the date when it arrives - probably before the end of the week.

Thanks for the responses.
Edited by johnsl
05/19/2014 7:26 pm
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 Posted 05/19/2014  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice qtr even if it's most likely not an overdate. You did ok.
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did you get it yet?
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90% of 18/17 s quarters have no top step. Her lift foot is dangling in mid air. That's the die with the I call it the splodge to the left of the right star. Go to heritage you will see what I'm talking about. I have foun on heritage some with the step but again 90% the foot is floating. Also the e clash is prominent here but many true ones you will see more letters from the reverse showing between the # 4 star on the left and the # 3 star on the right. When you see that step missing the splotches is obvious to the left of the star
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