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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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Here one off the fake coins I purchased time ago. First I though I had the real deal and went happy. Even an silver expert told met it was made of silver and he has an good name in that field over 50 years. But an auction house told me it was fake. One of the small things made me not sure was the dark spot on one side. It was a little les weight but it made a PING when I flipped it. the magnet did not work on it either. This one did an okay job I think. Just for fun I post it..   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it's fake it's an awfully good one but I know diddly about these. Just comparing it to a real one and I can't really find a difference. The dot below the arrowhead is a little bigger I think.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
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To the left wing of the eagle. That is the only part that looks strange. The cuts in the coin had no other collor beneeth it. So that aint false alarm. The edge has some damage so that could explain litle less weight.
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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I don't know if that thing to the left wing could be on more coins? It is the only dollar I've got from this type. So I don't have really an comparing example :( . The auction who sended it back has made more mistakes to coins which I've sended. I hope I don't trow it in the garbage if is real.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What are you seeing on the eagles left wing ?
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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This part on the image below. Did surround it with black in paint.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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Does someone has this kind of coins and an Morgan dollar coin? The only thing I know that the ping is litle different then an later Morgan dollar coin. So if it should be exactly the same that can be an difference. I have not 2 of this type dollar coins. Only 2 silver Morgan dollars to compare. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Probably high ZINC which is telling of the yellowish internal coloring or brassy like appearance. The ring test or pitch of this coin WILL be lower, its weight may be similar and it may be a very good later 19thC counterfeit. Similar to the Type 2 GNL Portrait 8 Reales which are debased silver alloy and mostly of CAROLUS III Portraits- the reasons beyond the scope of this current discussion.
John Lorenzo
Numismatist
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I like the denticles on Liberty's arm and belly.  I agree that it looks "off," but it's a pretty good fake if that it indeed is. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I did find a match to the reverse on Alibaba...first S in STATES has an exact gouge match up to yours.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Isn't the uneven spacing of the denticles vis a vis the edge a red flag, at least for this late an issue?
Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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I have no clue. Just the things I see and heard thats all I know. The things I check on these kind of coins. Is the weight, ping, magnet and thats it. And sometimes you see big stranges but with this coin not that much in first place.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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I don't like the weak 'E' and 'L' of 'ONE DOL' - it doesn't look like genuine wear, and I'd have expected a genuine weak strike to have affected other parts of the design. But I agree - it's a very good forgery.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't like the weak 'E' and 'L' of 'ONE DOL' - it doesn't look like genuine wear,... The alibaba coin also has the weak E and L along with the large period after Dol. Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for posting this piece. The edge cuts were perhaps inflicted to see if it was silver plated. What's the weight?
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Netherlands
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Thanks all for the comments. I am not home at this moment. I have some of the coins with me but not this particulair piece. If I am correct it weights like 1 gram less. But because of the edge has some damage. It could of been like 1 gram that was missing. If I am home in 2 weeks I try to make pictures of the edge aswell.
52Raymo can you post a picture of the alibaba coin? for coomparing?
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Posted 06/19/2014 10:42 am
