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Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 8:50 pm Is it just me, or does this specimen not look quite right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-CC-Mor...ht_66wt_1105 Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff

dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 9:03 pm Looks like someone has worked on the surfaces. It does appear to be a legit VAM-5 however. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2012 Pillar of the Community United States 8137 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 9:10 pm Looks real to me. Looks cleaned though. Report this Post to the Staff
wheatchaser140 Pillar of the Community United States 2368 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 9:27 pm I see a lot of hairlines in the fields. Wiped. Report this Post to the Staff
zxcccxz Pillar of the Community Canada 5417 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 9:28 pm The coin looks fake because its been Tooled, Polished, Cleaned; you name it! Looks kind of like those Modern Silver Rounds which have the Morgan dollar design on them. Report this Post to the Staff
jimbucks Pillar of the Community United States 4691 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 9:29 pm Looks fake. Red flag, a high value coin should be in a TPG holder. Report this Post to the Staff
westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7615 Posts	Posted 08/03/2014 9:29 pm Most likely it was at one time in a net/details TPG holder. It appears to be whizzed/cleaned/brushed. Run Forrest, run! Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16677 Posts	Posted 08/08/2014 12:06 am Anyone who puts "excellent shape" in their description says it all. Only buy from a reputable dealer raw or better yet, TPG'd. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 08/08/2014 06:37 am Quote: The coin looks fake because its been Tooled, Polished, Cleaned; you name it! Whizzed, this coin has the look of it. A good learning tool, the photo is really pumped up in saturation, vibrance as well. "Juiced" I like to say. See the rims, there are quite a few nicks on them that are not consistent in color of the rest of the coin. There seems to be a slight ridge on most of the letter and around the stars, a good indication of the use of a high speed dentist drill type job of wire brushing and moving metal around. I think the coin is real, just not what it appears to be at first glance. Quote: a high value coin should be in a TPG holder. Not necessarily, I know of many coins worth a lot more than this one (even if it wasn't messed with) that are in collections, and or bought and sold without being in a TPG holder. For someone that is a novice or just a "market investor" absolutely it should be in a slab, but there are plenty of professional numismatists that would have no problem owning high dollar coins that are "raw" or not in any TPG holder. In fact many rare and ultra rare U.S. Patterns are raw to this day, I've seen one collection that had 100's of specimens ungraded, within the past 5 years. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
paleoguy45 Pillar of the Community United States 2936 Posts	Posted 08/08/2014 07:30 am I think this seller crosses to the crack out artist dknies1947. That would explain the genuine key date coins offered raw with issues. The two appear to be in the same general area of IL. PG Report this Post to the Staff
ziskindd Valued Member United States 121 Posts	Posted 08/08/2014 9:14 pm I cannot speak to authenticity, but it was definitely worked over. Too many horizontal hairlines in multiple places on the obverse. Report this Post to the Staff
westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7615 Posts	Posted 08/09/2014 02:27 am This same Seller has relisted the cracked out Trade dollar that was talked about on another thread on these boards a week or so ago. The Seller ("Sue") decided to now mention the "N" carved in the eagle's wing, but calls it a "scratch". (Scratched with a back hoe?) Amazing that this person surfaced in an area around Chicago that has given us several crack-out fraudsters! As always, Buyer beware! Report this Post to the Staff
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