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 Posted 09/26/2014  12:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cu Lung to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I sell quite a lot of my toned 2012 pennies and others on ebay. I've been thinking of perhaps having some graded most likely by ICCS, wondering if they'll do it for one. All have original mint luster and in some cases more so than straight from the roll.

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Nah, coins that have obvious AT will come back with a details/No grade by any respectable coin grader
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 Posted 09/26/2014  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cu Lung to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't use chemicals on these, au natural!
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 Posted 09/26/2014  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are AT (artificially toned), considered damaged, won't be graded.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 09/26/2014  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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chemicals or not, these are ARTIFICIALLY TONED, nothing natural about them and TPGs would grade them as such
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Looks cool. I hope you are advertising these on e-Bay for what they really are or you are going to give our hobby a
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Considering Cu Lung and dmcmetals2012 are both based out of Kitchener I would say so.

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You're doing well for yourself monetarily with your "creations," but they are creations that shouldn't grade. My post in the link was tongue-in-cheek, meaning they are obvious AT. Clearly there's a market though.
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what are you using to get these AT colours?! No respectable service would touch those with a ten foot pole!
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76 smackers, the invisible hand of the economy has spoken.

I will say Cu Lung all thought not for me they really do pop and are quite pretty, maybe you could use a MIG welder and make a bracelet out of the coins, that would look nice on some pretty young lass.
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AT and stop selling them right now in ebay if you don't mention AT in the listings. Too many people would fall for these and pay staggering amounts of good money for such coins worth only face value.
And no, no respectable TPG would touch those sad results of AT. Chemical or not, it's AT. Not NT.
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ICCS will grade toned coins - but if they think a coin has been toned artificially (and in this case, blatantly), they will body bag it (which still costs the grading fee) and call it "unusual surfaces".

Ironically, ICCS will not do that for a coin that has been "dipped to death"
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Hey SPP_Ottawa, did you get any of those rainbow millennials graded? Where they considered artificially toned?
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Yes - one.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/GEM-TONED-Ca...290940849629

I chose one that was of decent grade, with softer, more uniform toning. I told Brian Cornwell the history of the coin, when I submitted it. He said, if the intent was not there, then he would grade it.

That said, there were way more wilder toned coins that I had... At least one CCF member got a full set of toned 2000 millennium coins from me...

For those who want to know what Harmonica is referring to:

https://goccf.com/t/136928

For fun, I sold a set this past August... and was surprised that the price it fetched, and a buyer from the UK was the winning bidder (which is not cheap to ship).

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301265149716
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THIS, is what natural pink toning looks like:

Possible-To-Grade-My-Creations?

Toned on one side only, but I have a matching pair from a 1973 double cent specimen set (red boxed set that had two specimen 1c coins in it, one face up and one face down, loose, and no silver dollar). Finding 100% red specimen cents from 1973 is darn hard - they were either issued in those double cent sets or the famous Prestige sets with the silver dollar and the famous red fluff that corroded the coins. This set of pink toners came out of a very dry southern Okanagan basement... the colour is best described as vivid...
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