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 Posted 11/16/2014  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, if you seriously think about these event... it could be exactly that way.
most certainly a better theory then any other.
Now, try and tie 36 Dot/Bar into the timeline.Old die, die crack, end of die life what date ?
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 Posted 11/16/2014  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, the bar is not a die crack, it was put there purposely to commemorate something.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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the only bar I am thinking about is the one this silly conversation is about to send me too! DBM you seen to be about the only sane one in this particular thread ........ Wow"............I am about to go dotty".......
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 Posted 11/16/2014  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellmaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Question remains unanswered Pacificoin.

What research do you have that the 1936 25 cent dot is a 1937 issue?

DBM, you are correct about the 35 dollar. George V was very much alive at the time.
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bellmaker, do you have a copy of Coins Of Canada by Haxby & Willey? Look there for info and mintage figures, I have faith in Dr.Haxby's research.
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"As in 1910, Canada had taken the precaution of stockpiling extra coins for the transitional period. Still the possibility existed that the supplies might be exhausted. It was decided to continue minting 1936-dated coins using the obsolete King George V dies with the old reverses. Thus, in the first quarter of 1937, some 678,823 one cents, 191,237 ten cents, and 153,322 twenty-five cents of this type were produced. At least some of the reverse dies for this extraordinary posthumous coinage were marked with a small dot.

However the anticipated shortage did not matreialize. This was attributable to the volume of coins on hand, and the relatively low demand at the time, and especially the grace in which the new King obliged The Royal Mint's artists with special sittings. (A new effigy was already completed and approved by February 11.) Most of the "1936 dot" coins were not needed. Only the twenty-five cent piece was actually issued. A few rare examples of the cent and ten cent survive, all of the others apparently having been melted down."

Haxby, J. A., Striking Impressions p. 152-154
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 Posted 11/16/2014  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellmaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anybody can publish anything, what source did Haxby use for what he wrote?
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 Posted 11/16/2014  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect from the "rumour Mint".
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The Master of the Mint, J. C. Corkery, wrote the foreword. He mentioned that his predecessor, Yvon Gariépy, had taken great interest in providing information about the history of Canadian coinage as very few had provided it. So, Corkey completed it. Haxby's sources come from these two Masters of the Mint, who obviously will have some sort of inside information.
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 Posted 11/16/2014  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellmaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any mention of what years these two served as Masters of the Mint?
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A quick internet search shows that Gariépy served from 1975 to 1981, and Corkery from 1982 to 1986. Striking Impressions is an old book. It was published in 1984. Both signatures of Corkery and Haxby has the text "Ottawa, December 1983" under them.

I haven't read to that part of the book yet, so I don't know if it's mentioned further back, I've only read up to "The Final Years as a Branch Mint". Lots of History to take in, but also lots of nice illustrations.
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 Posted 11/16/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellmaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info SlurExe97, don't have a copy of the book myself and I'm not very good at surfing the net.

Perhaps the two mentioned Mint Masters provided some sort of technical info or just wanted to see their names in print.

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 Posted 11/16/2014  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not my book. My library has everything, but everything is outdated by about 20 years.
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 Posted 11/17/2014  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellmaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Zonad on the rumour Mint comment.

Maybe your library has a copy of the 1937 Mint Report, will quickly show that a portion of what Haxby wrote is not fact.


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Many rumours are based on fact, someday written record of the melting of the coins will be shown to exist.IMHO
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