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Not exactly easy to come by.  |
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 Canada
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I see a die chip on the inside of the C in CENTs,
I have a 1945 Steel Victory 5 Cents with a piece
in the same spot. Looks like extra metal on the
outside of the C in Canada like mine as well.
Is there doubling on the CENTs (Looking at the E
and the bottom of the right side of the N)?
Any doubling on the obverse?
Nice tombac coin @bellmaker.
Edited by SilverDon
11/27/2014 09:16 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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are you guys aware that there is Morse-Code around the rim?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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We win when we work willingly!! Is the morse code.
But what variety are you talking about bellmaker?
Edited by robmck1967
11/27/2014 10:55 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These guessing game threads make my head hurt.
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Canada
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Edited by DEVLEC
11/27/2014 3:41 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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Bellmaker, is that a doubling under the bar of the 4 as documented by Zoell as R173a.
I collect tombac nickel varieties when I cant find any 50c varieties.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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maybe someone has a 1944 tombak 5 cent ? I would be a seriously interested buyer.
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I think that there are only 1 or 2 tombac 1944's known, 47P7. To land one would be quite costly. But there are Chinese fakes of the '44 tombac out there too, so be careful and watch what you buy.
Woops, looks like SPP beat me to the punch...
Edited by pennysaver
11/27/2014 9:32 pm
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yea, I am aware of these.
SPP what do you think a fair price would be today?
55-65? or even more?
even then, we would have no guarantee of someone finding a roll in the attic.
I think, if and when confronted with the issue, I would think about it...
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The 1944 Tombac first surfaced in an ANACS VF-20 holder and was sold at the Mid year Kreuger sale in 1982 as lot #2025. It was hammered at $7000.00 US and was purchased by John Abbott. At the time the consensus was that the piece was probably a mint error struck on a regular 1943 planchet stuck in the hopper, when the 1944 steel chrome 5 cents were issued. An error very similar in make up to the 15 famous 1943 Bronze Lincoln cents.
Subsequent to the Kreuger sale of 1982 the coin was then auctioned by Heritage as lot #5828 at their August 12th 1999 sale, with the coin now residing in a PCGS special holder with a grade of VF-35. Heritage concurred with both Abbott and Kreuger that the piece was most likely an error and most likely unique. Heritage further stated that they considered the 1944 Tombac as the rarest Canadian coin taken from circulation, and that it was highly unlikely that another would surface after all the passing years. As stated by SPP the coin realized 35,075 US dollars in that particular Heritage auction .
One can speculate on price in todays market probably $55-$60 K US. With todays market focused on super quality rather than on super rarities, if the 1944 Tombac was say MS65 you would easily get 100-125 K. I for one am of the opinion that the chances of seeing another surface are as likely as finding a circulated 1936 dot cent or 1936 dot ten cents. ....................not likely in this lifetime!
Edited by Pacificoin
11/28/2014 02:29 am
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There is extra metal on the inside of the C, no doubling to speak of and the coin does appear to be a different color. Here's a visual hint. This second coin, is the exact opposite of the first coin and also not exactly easy to come by.  |
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It has been my experience that the tombac beaver was the hardest of all to find. I eventually found one in MS63 for a good price, and that made me very satisfied.  It took me about three years to find one, and complete my collection of base metal five cent coins to 1967. It is now the 'star' of that part of my collection of Canadian coins! Edited by sel_69l
11/28/2014 07:31 am
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Bellmaker - I notice the second coin has collar clash marks around the entire Reverse. The first coin picture you posted has no collar clash marks at all.
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Scissel...
I see a raised edge on the above bellmaker tombac 43 but I don't see the clash marks..
Please explain in detail so that we can truly better understand what you are seeing.
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..and sel_691....
Could you also explain how you found the beaver tombac,... and as to the difficulty in finding it.? Is it dealers or auctions or coin clubs ,..etc....?
..the reason I ask is because I have some tombac 42 beavers but I have no idea "how or if" they are "tough to find"..
I've been away from this too long and I'm not up to speed on how hard it might be to find some of these 5 cent coins..
Maybe MM could also chip in here and fill in the gaps "of knowledge" ..
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