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Anatomy Of A Coin Thief...a True Story

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A really good read from Vic Bozarth Rare Coins regarding a multi show coin thief and his capture and return of some of the items.

http://www.coinweek.com/education/c...-true-story/
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Just read this article at NCIC.

What a piece of work. If I were the Judge, he would have seen some prison time and a lifetime ban from shows. If this guy walks into a show in 5 years, I hope he gets followed everywhere.
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Thanks for posting this, Westcoin. There's much to be said herein about the value of networking amongst honest dealers.

IMHO, the sentence is ridiculous, considering the number of victims and the "known" amount involved. This amount is the equivalent of ten felonies. Having worked in the legal system, I'm quite familiar with this consistent disparity in sentencing, but decades later, I remain no less frustrated by it. I once vented my frustration to a judge on behalf of a mentally disabled "offender" who was sentenced to a three year probation sentence and thirty days in jail. The offense? It was petit larceny, the theft of three dollars in food from a market. The thirty year old man, had been shunned by family members and hadn't eaten in three days, so he grabbed a stick of pepperoni and a root beer. There were court options, short of even a conviction, that could have been utilized. Just reflecting back on judicial disparities like this makes my blood boil ...

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Thanks for posting this, Westcoin. There's much to be said herein about the value of networking amongst honest dealers.

IMHO, the sentence is ridiculous, considering the number of victims and the "known" amount involved. This amount is the equivalent of ten felonies. Having worked in the legal system, I'm quite familiar with this consistent disparity in sentencing, but decades later, I remain no less frustrated by it. I once vented my frustration to a judge on behalf of a mentally disabled "offender" who was sentenced to a three year probation sentence and thirty days in jail. The offense? It was petty larceny, the theft of three dollars in food from a market. The thirty year old man, had been shunned by family members and hadn't eaten in three days, so he grabbed a stick of pepperoni and a root beer. There were court options, short of even a conviction, that could have been utilized. Just reflecting back on judicial disparities like this makes my blood boil ...


That is our biggest problem with our judicial system today... We sentence someone to very little time and then suspend it then give them probation... Basically a slap on the wrist.

If I had it my way he would have spent at least 10 years in prison, would have had his Social Security seized until full restitution and fines would have been paid or would have had reduced benefits until fully repaid. He would have been on probation until all fines and restitution were fully paid. Lifetime ban on all coin shows, coin shops, and any website that sells coins or bullion...

I would have dropped the hammer on him...
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Some coin shops make it easy for thieves to pounce.

I was in a coin shop in NSW Australia recently. Five 'customers' milling about and only one stand in staff messing about with his own stuff - lots of cabinets where hands could delve and steal when eyes are turned.
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He should have had 5 years hard labor. Not losing freedom and being able to lead a mostly normal life after committing a crime of this magnitude will not bring reform. Bryan78 is right - the lack of punishment is the problem with our system. They catch the perps, but then just slap their wrist and let them go.

So the guy cannot go to coin shows. What's to stop him doing the same kind of con at other hobby shows?
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Bring in Sharia Law - Hudud - amputation of hands or feet (for theft)

..........that would soon put a stop to thieving

..........usually the right hand I think (means your feeding hand has to be used for the dirty work)

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