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Does Anyone Else See The Brockage Going On Here: 1917-D Wheat

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This is the same VLDS 1917-D I had inquired about earlier on in the week. Except this time when I flipped the coin over the light hit it the right way. To me it looks like a slight brockage...it seems identical to wear Lincolns head/shoulder area are.

I've seen people post those overlay images before. Can someone do this with this Wheat cent of mine please?

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Original photos

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Does-Anyone-Else-See-The-Brockage-Going-On-Here:-1917-D-Wheat

a terrible paint program outline
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Hard to say what's going on here except a very late die state for sure. Cool
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Could it be 'ghosting' as seen on many British George V pennies of 1911-27? The obverse head was in very high relief and the reverse often shows a faint outline of the king's head around Britannia.
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Not a brockage, just Progressive Indirect Design Transfer(PIDT) which is simply just another manifestation of die wear.
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Its a form of "ghosting" that is common with early brach mint LWCs. Either the dies were worn or they were spread too far apart, there are alot of reasons.
Whew, I guess reading the entire RedBook Guide to Lincoln Cents cover to cover really paid off!
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They happen on wheats and Memorials.
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But they are usually on later die state coins.

Also on Mercury dimes:
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Also Buffalo nickels:
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Great pics, coop! Thanks.
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Thanks everyone! Being on this site and learning more and more by the day is awesome. Appreciate everyone's help and comments. Those pictues are exactly what I was talking about with those overlays. Is there a website out this with those or someone around here puts them together?
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Does-Anyone-Else-See-The-Brockage-Going-On-Here:-1917-D-Wheat
How's that? oops I guess that's the wrong error.
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Sure is interesting. Very cool. Nice example of this kind of die stage.
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Yep, the proper term is Progressive Indirect Design Transfer(PIDT), the common slang term is "ghosting".
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Also very well known on 3 cent silvers, especially the 1852s where they minted 18m from only a few hundred dies.
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