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It's a lovely and expensive coin, but this 1820 Large Cent has been graded MS-64 "Red" by ANACS even though it has a large toned spot on the cheek. I would think this big spot on such a prominent spot as Liberty's cheek would eliminate a "Red" designation. What am I missing? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1820-1C-Lar...251935889056? Paul Bulgerin
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That's a very old ANACS holder, the coin may have turned in the holder. I doubt that coin would get a red designation if submitted today.
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That's a very old ANACS holder, the coin may have turned in the holder. I doubt that coin would get a red designation if submitted today.  It might even get a details label by the nature of that dark spot. |
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too! I have several older ANACS holders that the coins inside have changed dramatically over the couple of decades I've owned them. Silver dollars that were blast white now are almost solid brown, and a couple of RB Two Cent Pieces that are all brown today. Copper is probably one of the most volatile metals (besides aluminium), that has been used in coin production, it corrodes and changes color quite easily with various levels of contaminants and humidity in the air, as well as temperature changes. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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What's worse is the images that seller is using to sell a $6500 coin!
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Now you know why I'll never buy "Red" copper.
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Now you know why I'll never buy "Red" copper. I agree. Brown (or red-brown), for the win (and for the savings).  |
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Turned in holder. Buying any Red coin is bound for a future disappointment (depending on environment).
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It's the same thing as a toner - beautiful to look at, but very chancy to keep that way in the long term.
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Red coins do show you how the coin was intended to look and as such are beautiful. I agree though that they'll never stay that way. This one was probably lacquered through out most of its life.
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I only own three full RD Indian cents. They were all recently graded too. The best values are RB coins that are almost full RD and BN coins that should be RB. Buying classic coins in full red is a risky investment. |
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This one was probably lacquered through out most of its life. I'm going to repeat this as a hint. Remember, kids, acetone removes lacquer like it was never there. |
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Thanks for all the responses. I hadn't thought of the coin toning once in the holder. I have a NGC MS-66 Mercury dime that's done quite a toning number on itself, and is now quite lovely, since the days when I bought it 20 years ago as a full silver coin. Paul Bulgerin
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I think some of the adults should remember it as well. Although I know Ddave was not being literal.  |
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I have a few Indians that were more red unc when I got them and now they are still some red but now they are darker, heading to brown with some luster. I have had for 40yrs
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Posted 04/28/2015 02:35 am
