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Mike1487 Pillar of the Community United States 709 Posts	Posted 05/31/2015 01:38 am Hey guys, I wanted to share my best cherrypick to date. I picked this up last year on ebay for $20. The pictures were pretty bad and the coin had a lot of debris/dirt on it (way more than there is now). I was amazed how much the acetone/verdicare combo worked on it; I focused mostly on the obverse (had to use a toothpick) because that was the worst. I thought there was going to be corrosion underneath and surely a details coin. I may do another treatment on the reverse; at the time I didn't want to mess with it more than I had to, kinda scared. But I'm confident I could get the reverse looking like the obverse since the obverse use to be worse than the reverse. Would a TPG care with the current difference in dirt buildup and flag it as details (obverse vs reverse)? Anyway, how would you rate her? This one is my pride and joy I did some different lightings to show color/detail. It's an original brown color in hand. Thanks! By the way, that is dust/hair on the ES of STATES. Report this Post to the Staff

mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 05/31/2015 05:38 am Hi, In an attempt to remain within the scope of this particular thread I opine that any procedure or material capable of more effectively dislodging any type of deep-seated crud is worth looking at. ...had to use a toothpick. After delving into this subject a bit more one might possibly decree that select mammalian protuberances will supplant a pointed wooden shaft any day en route to that optimized/desired end result: https://goccf.com/t/88137&whichpage=2 So as not to stray too far from the doubling issue at hand the only additional comment worth mentioning is that when placing an order for these things always request lengths of no less that two and one-half inches(2.5") which increases shaft rigidity and diameter for prolonged usage etc. fyi, mdpmedia Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8516 Posts	Posted 05/31/2015 10:42 am Nice pick up ! I found one on ebay but I wasn't the only one that spotted it. I also use a toothpick when working on my Indians. Just have to be careful. Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Report this Post to the Staff
Joseph7420 Bedrock of the Community Canada 11922 Posts	Posted 05/31/2015 11:49 pm VF-25. Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 06/01/2015 05:10 am Nice pick up for $20, VF-20 Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36741 Posts	Posted 06/01/2015 10:17 am VF-20 Report this Post to the Staff
jerryc39 Pillar of the Community United States 3156 Posts	Posted 06/01/2015 10:40 am great pickup for 20 bucks. vf20 Report this Post to the Staff
Mike1487 Pillar of the Community United States 709 Posts	Posted 04/16/2016 4:58 pm Here's the grading results from NGC: I think they were pretty generous with this one! Report this Post to the Staff
georgescoins Valued Member United States 431 Posts	Posted 04/16/2016 5:10 pm Nice find for $20! Its a nice one. Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8516 Posts	Posted 04/16/2016 5:37 pm Great outcome ! Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 04/16/2016 6:59 pm NGC was lenient with this one. But you have a market full of individuals who only read the label and don't care about what is inside. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/17/2016 4:49 pm Congrats. NGC and PCGS both seem to be liberal with the keys, imo. Report this Post to the Staff
billjones Pillar of the Community United States 1499 Posts	Posted 04/17/2016 5:12 pm Quote: VF-20 Quote: VF-25. Other quotes say the same thing ... Sorry guys, but when I bought a 1908-S Indian from Gimbels Department Store in 1963, a coin with this much of the "LIBERTY" was graded VG to Fine. That's what it should be, but "grade-flation" has lifted it to VF. In the old days you needed a full "LIBERTY" to make Fine. Some of the letters could be weak or just outlined for a bare minimum Fine-12, but the word needed to show. Now a coin that does not have all of the letters gets "VF." This works to the benefit of collectors who have coins to sell and dealers who get windfalls. It works against any collector who is looking to buy coins because they get less for their money. In addition this coin has vertigras on the reverse, which would bring the grade down to VG with no "+" for the partial "LIBERTY." If you want to fall in with this, go ahead. You are cutting the legs out from under your coin budget. I for one will try to stick with consistent standards until I'm planted. I am not alone. Dave Bowers has said the same thing. BTW, that was one heck of a pick off, Mike1487. That is a scarce variety although it is getting more common all of the time with the new discoveries. Edited by billjones 04/17/2016 5:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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